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Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You are losing it, Sinner. You're starting to sound as crazy as Bako. Or that other that is supposedly still trolling. As that renowned philosopher once stated ... Totally relaxed. Just not under hypnosis....

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Old 01-11-2023, 07:06 PM   #71
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
You are losing it, Sinner. You're starting to sound as crazy as Bako. Or that other that is supposedly still trolling.

As that renowned philosopher once stated ...

Totally relaxed. Just not under hypnosis.
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Old 01-11-2023, 07:16 PM   #72
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

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Totally relaxed. Just not under hypnosis.
Same here, my friend.
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Old 01-11-2023, 08:13 PM   #73
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

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As a former season ticket holder present at THE NFCCG, I can say that giving up on the NFL was one of the best decisions I ever made.

Financially, it was worth about $10,000 a year.

Emotionally, it is great not giving a damn about a bunch of spoiled brats playing a game.

It is also great not planning some of the finest weather weekends of the year around traveling to New Orleans or cooped up in some sports bar for away games.

I have a lot of fond memories. I attended the very first Saints game in Tulane stadium. I was born 13 days later. My entire family have been Saints fans since 1967 or since birth. Most still are but I have checked almost completely out. I follow this board out of nostalgia and to be able to talk with my Mom about current Saints events. She can't give it up.

Giving up on investing time and treasure in the Saints may not matter to the NFL or the Saints organization but you might enjoy life more.
I know i do! It's a good feeling not to be controlled by Theater disguised as sport. I watch through a "Let's see if I can spot the fix" lens now. Start paying attention to the players body language on the sidelines. Some are really bad at hiding their feelings.
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Old 01-11-2023, 08:27 PM   #74
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

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I know i do! It's a good feeling not to be controlled by Theater disguised as sport. I watch through a "Let's see if I can spot the fix" lens now. Start paying attention to the players body language on the sidelines. Some are really bad at hiding their feelings.
A WHOLE 'nother conversation. ^^^ One that definitely takes the piss out of the hypnosis.
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Old 01-12-2023, 02:15 AM   #75
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

I was at the NFCCG too and have been much more hesitant to spend big money attending nfl games since then, but I still follow my team.

I don’t think minor diffences in voting with my wallet will make a big difference to the nfl but it might make a difference to my wallet.

I don’t think the nfl is fixed but i think it is biased. I think refs know that uncle roger has some golden boy teams and some black sheep teams and if they lean a bit on the scales and be sure not to let those degenerate black sheep teams get away with any hits while making sure not to be too hard on those golden boy teams who have the best intentions, that when a position opens for head of officiating or other plum assignments, their name will be high on the list. I think that having that bias, they also dont like being called on it and having their authority questioned, so when a team and its fans see their abuse and complain their bias only grows.

I don’t think my individual opinion effects the Saints personnel decisions but I think everyone on this site shares opinions and it would be pointless to join this site if all you ever say is ‘keep doing more of the same.’ So this is a place to vent. But if we all start venting about the same things and a Saints coach or GM ends up about as popular as Roger Goodell in New Orleans that might move the needle to firing them. Loomis may be safer than many foreign dictators from the effects of public opinion but he is not invulnerable if he keeps it up and gives Shaheed to Philly for a 5th and throws in our 2024 1st rounder.

Anyway it may not take my persuasion to get rid of Loomis. He has the look of a hard drinker. In the draft he likes to take big risks and ignore health concerns, if he has similar tastes in the bedroom that could get him some viruses. Mix the two and there is some risk of liver problems. So maybe the Loomis problem will solve itself.
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Old 01-12-2023, 06:55 AM   #76
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

Not to interupt the sniping, but ...

Sam Darnold won with:
5-15 passing,
43 yds,
0 TD's,
2 INT's,
and... wait for it.... a QB rating of 2.8! (which has to be a record somehow!)

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson's Joker: This Team needs an Enema!
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Old 01-12-2023, 07:12 AM   #77
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

Originally Posted by leilung View Post
Not to interupt the sniping, but ...

Sam Darnold won with:
5-15 passing,
43 yds,
0 TD's,
2 INT's,
and... wait for it.... a QB rating of 2.8! (which has to be a record somehow!)

Our run defense needs to be bolstered too. Vs the Panthers we gave up 171 rushing yards and 10 rushing first downs.
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Old 01-12-2023, 11:18 AM   #78
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Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

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I was at the NFCCG too and have been much more hesitant to spend big money attending nfl games since then, but I still follow my team.

I don’t think minor diffences in voting with my wallet will make a big difference to the nfl but it might make a difference to my wallet.

I don’t think the nfl is fixed but i think it is biased. I think refs know that uncle roger has some golden boy teams and some black sheep teams and if they lean a bit on the scales and be sure not to let those degenerate black sheep teams get away with any hits while making sure not to be too hard on those golden boy teams who have the best intentions, that when a position opens for head of officiating or other plum assignments, their name will be high on the list. I think that having that bias, they also dont like being called on it and having their authority questioned, so when a team and its fans see their abuse and complain their bias only grows.

I don’t think my individual opinion effects the Saints personnel decisions but I think everyone on this site shares opinions and it would be pointless to join this site if all you ever say is ‘keep doing more of the same.’ So this is a place to vent. But if we all start venting about the same things and a Saints coach or GM ends up about as popular as Roger Goodell in New Orleans that might move the needle to firing them. Loomis may be safer than many foreign dictators from the effects of public opinion but he is not invulnerable if he keeps it up and gives Shaheed to Philly for a 5th and throws in our 2024 1st rounder.

Anyway it may not take my persuasion to get rid of Loomis. He has the look of a hard drinker. In the draft he likes to take big risks and ignore health concerns, if he has similar tastes in the bedroom that could get him some viruses. Mix the two and there is some risk of liver problems. So maybe the Loomis problem will solve itself.
The loss of Broadcasting, Corporate Sponsorship and Merchandise $$$$ would have to happen for any impact to be felt from the loss of the average fans $. The money the NFL claims to have lost in 2020 was the Revenue Sharing which is the splitting of the $$$$$$$$$$$ from ticket sales, parking, food ect. The owners lost their "Pocket Money" that year.

From Yahoo Sports concerning 2020: "The bulk of the revenue decline was absorbed by the individual teams, who couldn't benefit from sales revenue tied to tickets, parking and concessions or local sponsorships during the pandemic."
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