Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints?

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2023, 03:16 PM

bobdog86 · 01-10-2023, 02:55 PM

Players are probably ready for a new chapter, Coach P is probably ready for a new chapter. Probably largest sector of people wanting to get the band back together are the fans, and we really don't know 10% of what we think we do. New start for everyone at this point is the only logical option.

darksoul35 · 01-15-2023, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Players are probably ready for a new chapter, Coach P is probably ready for a new chapter. Probably largest sector of people wanting to get the band back together are the fans, and we really don't know 10% of what we think we do. New start for everyone at this point is the only logical option.

If we do that can it just please not be with Allen?

bobdog86 · 01-10-2023, 04:20 PM

What's the greatest sports quote of all time....."Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! Thank you to the great Jim H. Same applies here imo. Something that special can and will never be duplicated, accept it for what it was, a glorious memorable moment of a lifetime. Falcons have 28-3, Hawks have the goal line pic and we have a Lombardi. Oh what a great moment in history.

Rugby Saint II · 01-12-2023, 03:47 PM

I feel like we were blessed to have Sean Payton come in and take us to the heights where we enjoyed continued success. We did have some down years due to Sean Payton's loyalty with his old coaches. However, he fixed that and brought us back to the playoffs on a perennial basis. His last year coaching had to be pure hell and I don't blame him for retiring.

I'm very glad that he has done well in broadcasting. It was time for a fresh start elsewhere when he went into broadcasting, and now it's time for that fresh start again with a new franchise back in coaching.

TheOak · 01-18-2023, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I feel like we were blessed to have Sean Payton come in and take us to the heights where we enjoyed continued success. We did have some down years due to Sean Payton's loyalty with his old coaches. However, he fixed that and brought us back to the playoffs on a perennial basis. His last year coaching had to be pure hell and I don't blame him for retiring.

I'm very glad that he has done well in broadcasting. It was time for a fresh start elsewhere when he went into broadcasting, and now it's time for that fresh start again with a new franchise back in coaching.

If given the choice of having 2006 Sean Payton back or 2006 Drew Brees back I am taking Drew all day. This is the reason I believe we attribute a lot of success to Sean that should actually be attributed to Drew.

Here is another litmus test. Which statement is more true?

Drew Brees, Hall of Fame Quarterback.
Sean Payton, Hall of Fame Coach.

Sean left because that is his way of running from the reality that he was a car on the Drew Brees train and not the other way around.

Mr.Riaton · 01-18-2023, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

If given the choice of having 2006 Sean Payton back or 2006 Drew Brees back I am taking Drew all day. This is the reason I believe we attribute a lot of success to Sean that should actually be attributed to Drew.

Here is another litmus test. Which statement is more true?
Drew Brees, Hall of Fame Quarterback.

Sean Payton, Hall of Fame Coach.

Sean left because that is his way of running from the reality that he was a car on the Drew Brees train and not the other way around.

I agree with you on this for the most part but I do feel like drew wouldn’t have been what he was hadn’t it been for Sean. I’d bet that if we would’ve got Mahomes then we’d remain a top tier team with maybe another Super Bowl and possibly put Sean in hall of fame conversation

TheOak · 01-18-2023, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I agree with you on this for the most part but I do feel like drew wouldn’t have been what he was hadn’t it been for Sean. I’d bet that if we would’ve got Mahomes then we’d remain a top tier team with maybe another Super Bowl and possibly put Sean in hall of fame conversation

I understand your reservations, chicken vs egg is a dilemma isn't it..

Maybe this helps. One could easily argue that Brees and Mahomes are similar talents and either would be successful anywhere they go. Sean on the other hand has yet to show that he can do anything notable without Drew. Does Sean get credit for getting Drew into a Saints uniform? Undoubtedly. Is Sean responsible for Drews success, I cant give him that one and if we believe that Drew would be successful anywhere he went then that would include a New Orleans Saints without Sean Payton. All of my roads are still leading back to Drew Brees.

Mr.Riaton · 01-18-2023, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I understand your reservations, chicken vs egg is a dilemma isn't it..

Maybe this helps. One could easily argue that Brees and Mahomes are similar talents and either would be successful anywhere they go. Sean on the other hand has yet to show that he can do anything notable without Drew. Does Sean get credit for getting Drew into a Saints uniform? Undoubtedly. Is Sean responsible for Drews success, I cant give him that one and if we believe that Drew would be successful anywhere he went then that would include a New Orleans Saints without Sean Payton. All of my roads are still leading back to Drew Brees.

Good points. Who would you say is a great coach without a good qb in todays NFL?

K Major · 01-15-2023, 03:43 PM

The marriage is over.

Good run though 😉.

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bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,483	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Players are probably ready for a new chapter, Coach P is probably ready for a new chapter. Probably largest sector of people wanting to get the band back together are the fans, and we really don't know 10% of what we think we do. New start for everyone at this point is the only logical option. iceshack149 and Sinner like this.

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darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Originally Posted by bobdog86 Players are probably ready for a new chapter, Coach P is probably ready for a new chapter. Probably largest sector of people wanting to get the band back together are the fans, and we really don't know 10% of what we think we do. New start for everyone at this point is the only logical option. If we do that can it just please not be with Allen?
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01-10-2023, 04:20 PM	#4
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01-18-2023, 06:26 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I feel like we were blessed to have Sean Payton come in and take us to the heights where we enjoyed continued success. We did have some down years due to Sean Payton's loyalty with his old coaches. However, he fixed that and brought us back to the playoffs on a perennial basis. His last year coaching had to be pure hell and I don't blame him for retiring. I'm very glad that he has done well in broadcasting. It was time for a fresh start elsewhere when he went into broadcasting, and now it's time for that fresh start again with a new franchise back in coaching. If given the choice of having 2006 Sean Payton back or 2006 Drew Brees back I am taking Drew all day. This is the reason I believe we attribute a lot of success to Sean that should actually be attributed to Drew. Here is another litmus test. Which statement is more true? Drew Brees, Hall of Fame Quarterback. Sean Payton, Hall of Fame Coach. Sean left because that is his way of running from the reality that he was a car on the Drew Brees train and not the other way around.

01-18-2023, 06:41 AM	#7
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,289	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak If given the choice of having 2006 Sean Payton back or 2006 Drew Brees back I am taking Drew all day. This is the reason I believe we attribute a lot of success to Sean that should actually be attributed to Drew. Here is another litmus test. Which statement is more true? Drew Brees, Hall of Fame Quarterback. Sean Payton, Hall of Fame Coach. Sean left because that is his way of running from the reality that he was a car on the Drew Brees train and not the other way around. I agree with you on this for the most part but I do feel like drew wouldn’t have been what he was hadn’t it been for Sean. I’d bet that if we would’ve got Mahomes then we’d remain a top tier team with maybe another Super Bowl and possibly put Sean in hall of fame conversation Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-18-2023, 06:55 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I agree with you on this for the most part but I do feel like drew wouldn’t have been what he was hadn’t it been for Sean. I’d bet that if we would’ve got Mahomes then we’d remain a top tier team with maybe another Super Bowl and possibly put Sean in hall of fame conversation I understand your reservations, chicken vs egg is a dilemma isn't it.. Maybe this helps. One could easily argue that Brees and Mahomes are similar talents and either would be successful anywhere they go. Sean on the other hand has yet to show that he can do anything notable without Drew. Does Sean get credit for getting Drew into a Saints uniform? Undoubtedly. Is Sean responsible for Drews success, I cant give him that one and if we believe that Drew would be successful anywhere he went then that would include a New Orleans Saints without Sean Payton. All of my roads are still leading back to Drew Brees. Mr.Riaton likes this.
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01-18-2023, 07:07 AM	#9
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,289	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak I understand your reservations, chicken vs egg is a dilemma isn't it.. Maybe this helps. One could easily argue that Brees and Mahomes are similar talents and either would be successful anywhere they go. Sean on the other hand has yet to show that he can do anything notable without Drew. Does Sean get credit for getting Drew into a Saints uniform? Undoubtedly. Is Sean responsible for Drews success, I cant give him that one and if we believe that Drew would be successful anywhere he went then that would include a New Orleans Saints without Sean Payton. All of my roads are still leading back to Drew Brees. Good points. Who would you say is a great coach without a good qb in todays NFL?

01-15-2023, 03:43 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why doesn’t Payton want to come back to the Saints? The marriage is over. Good run though 😉. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

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