Evaluating Coaches

K Major · 02-13-2023, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1624964574498926592

Andy Reid?

Reid is a BAD man.

But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB.

He’s not done either 🏆.

vpheughan · 02-16-2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Reid is a BAD man.

But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB.

He’s not done either 🏆.

Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH.

That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost.

I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record.

SmashMouth · 02-16-2023, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH.

That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost.

I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record.

Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2023, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

How realistic was it for anyone to find us a replacement for Brees? The man is going to be a first ballot hall of famer. It may take a couple of decades to find anyone that some would consider a replacement. We just need to draft one every year even if to serve as a practice squad filler/camp body until we get lucky.

Rugby Saint II · 02-16-2023, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill.

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2023, 12:51 PM

SmashMouth · 02-16-2023, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill.

Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got?

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2023, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got?

They got lucky. Although, they were wanting an excuse to insert Philip Rivers the whole time he was there. Brees was solid, but was never great with the Chargers. Although, they didn't draft Rivers. They drafted Eli Manning and he refused to play for them so the Giants drafted Rivers and they traded.

I feel drafting a QB is always luck ... good or bad. Bad far and away more often than good. Nobody can tell for certain how any college QB will translate to the NFL game. If they claim they can then they're lying.

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2023, 04:57 PM

Another of our supposedly horrendous coaches is drawing interest. Go figure.

halloween 65 · 02-16-2023, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They got lucky. Although, they were wanting an excuse to insert Philip Rivers the whole time he was there. Brees was solid, but was never great with the Chargers. Although, they didn't draft Rivers. They drafted Eli Manning and he refused to play for them so the Giants drafted Rivers and they traded.

I feel drafting a QB is always luck ... good or bad. Bad far and away more often than good. Nobody can tell for certain how any college QB will translate to the NFL game. If they claim they can then they're lying.

They couldn't have been to bad, Rivers was a good qb. and Eli won 2 Superbowls. That looks solid to me and not luck. They have a really good qb. now, was that luck?

02-16-2023, 10:51 AM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,565	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by K Major Reid is a BAD man. But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB. He’s not done either 🏆. Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH. That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost. I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record. iceshack149, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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02-16-2023, 11:02 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,205 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by vpheughan Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH. That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost. I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record. Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not . UK_WhoDat likes this.

02-16-2023, 11:25 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not . How realistic was it for anyone to find us a replacement for Brees? The man is going to be a first ballot hall of famer. It may take a couple of decades to find anyone that some would consider a replacement. We just need to draft one every year even if to serve as a practice squad filler/camp body until we get lucky.

02-16-2023, 12:31 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,203	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not . We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill.

02-16-2023, 12:51 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Evaluating Coaches Twitter

02-13-2023, 08:20 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,886 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1624964574498926592 Andy Reid? Reid is a BAD man. But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB. He’s not done either 🏆. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

02-16-2023, 01:19 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,205 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill. Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got?

02-16-2023, 01:59 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got? They got lucky. Although, they were wanting an excuse to insert Philip Rivers the whole time he was there. Brees was solid, but was never great with the Chargers. Although, they didn't draft Rivers. They drafted Eli Manning and he refused to play for them so the Giants drafted Rivers and they traded. I feel drafting a QB is always luck ... good or bad. Bad far and away more often than good. Nobody can tell for certain how any college QB will translate to the NFL game. If they claim they can then they're lying.

02-16-2023, 04:57 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Evaluating Coaches Another of our supposedly horrendous coaches is drawing interest. Go figure. Twitter

02-16-2023, 06:09 PM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They got lucky. Although, they were wanting an excuse to insert Philip Rivers the whole time he was there. Brees was solid, but was never great with the Chargers. Although, they didn't draft Rivers. They drafted Eli Manning and he refused to play for them so the Giants drafted Rivers and they traded. I feel drafting a QB is always luck ... good or bad. Bad far and away more often than good. Nobody can tell for certain how any college QB will translate to the NFL game. If they claim they can then they're lying. They couldn't have been to bad, Rivers was a good qb. and Eli won 2 Superbowls. That looks solid to me and not luck. They have a really good qb. now, was that luck? SmashMouth likes this.

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