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Sinner 01-22-2023 12:54 PM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968067)
Mindset.

Some want excellence as much as anyone else but choose not to constantly spend their time *****ing and moaning about things out of their control.
I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism.

K Major 01-22-2023 01:06 PM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 968068)
I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism.
LMAO !! Refer to POST #61.

And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend :p.

I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post.

If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year.

Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023.

AsylumGuido 01-22-2023 01:12 PM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
On cue, *****in' and moanin'. :D

And, yes, that ignore function is great!

Sinner 01-22-2023 01:46 PM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 968069)
LMAO !! Refer to POST #61.

And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend :p.

I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post.

If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year.

Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023.
IMAGINE a Fan Forum, or any situation really, where there is no "*****in and moanin" - while dismal season after dismal season rolls on, completely unchecked and accepted. A compliant, complacent, robotic world. Much more negative at its core, than any *****in' and moanin'.

saintsfan1976 01-23-2023 05:44 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 968056)
How do we know he was scheming plays? He didn’t call plays. We don’t know if he designed them. This was a true season seeing what he can do without Payton, and it was dog ****. If Pete comes back I’m taking a year off from the Saints.

Some folks here, and particularly here for some reason would defend anything the Saints do, they’d praise bringing jamarcus russell in.
I'm not defending "anything the Saints do", in fact I've been very vocal in my criticism. I even stated Pete wasn't effective without SP...

If you're suggesting the Offensive Coordinator of the last 16 years wasn't designing plays throughout the week then I'm not sure there's much more to debate about because that's just not plausible.

saintsfan1976 01-23-2023 05:46 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 968060)
My two cents:
Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring!

This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023.
I have to assume Pete won't be in sole possession of the offense moving forward.

Let's see what moves the Saints make next.

There's still an entire off-season ahead...

saintsfan1976 01-23-2023 05:47 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 968055)
Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent.
Agreed. The word "stale" came up a lot.

TheOak 01-23-2023 06:21 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967979)
"If you enter into an argument with a fool, he has already won"

~ African Proverb
This one hits hard, as it shines a spotlight on the deluded people that will destroy friendships with people that they actually know arguing over people whom they have never met and will never meet. Most often done with layers or false virtue, proclamations of empathy, and an air of some fictional greater understanding.


“I’d rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.”

BakoSaint 01-23-2023 07:22 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.

saintsfan1976 01-23-2023 07:34 AM
Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 968121)
Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.
I'm detecting a slight bit of sarcasm there Bako :p


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