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TheOak 01-20-2023 07:44 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 967947)
Total lack of self-awareness. This guy has made many great posters on this site leave out of frustration. He's the worst troll I've ever witnessed.

I propose quite the opposite lol. It is unbridled narcissism and any empathy exhibited is not genuine but rather an attempt to reflect a favorable image. He rationalizes his caustic bias as optimism, but optimism is actually healthy and doesn't start arguments.

He is allowed to do what he wishes, but so is everyone else, this is the B&G way. When it becomes problematic is when the users, not the admin, decide they have had enough of the banter and start telling those that have had enough of him that they don't want to see it. Those people are conflict averse and do not realize their passive aggressive approach does not resonate with the caustic antagonist, but instead empowers him because he cant comprehend how he could possibly be in the wrong. Narcissists are never wrong and it is always about their point of view. If you challenge their character they get triggered which is ironic considering they lie to themselves continuously.. It's a fascinating study.:smokin:

I try my hardest to ignore the mentally compromised and reflect on Twain's.. 'Don't argue with them, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.' :chug:

K Major 01-20-2023 09:37 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 967968)
I propose quite the opposite lol. It is unbridled narcissism and any empathy exhibited is not genuine but rather an attempt to reflect a favorable image. He rationalizes his caustic bias as optimism, but optimism is actually healthy and doesn't start arguments.

He is allowed to do what he wishes, but so is everyone else, this is the B&G way. When it becomes problematic is when the users, not the admin, decide they have had enough of the banter and start telling those that have had enough of him that they don't want to see it. Those people are conflict averse and do not realize their passive aggressive approach does not resonate with the caustic antagonist, but instead empowers him because he cant comprehend how he could possibly be in the wrong. Narcissists are never wrong and it is always about their point of view. If you challenge their character they get triggered which is ironic considering they lie to themselves continuously.. It's a fascinating study.:smokin:

I try my hardest to ignore the mentally compromised and reflect on Twain's.. 'Don't argue with them, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.' :chug:


:bng:

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SaintsBro 01-20-2023 10:16 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
I didn't expect any major changes especially while the Pelicans are doing so well. Why rock the boat? Their minds are clearly elsewhere right now besides the Saints.

FinSaint 01-20-2023 10:17 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967879)
Actually, I hoping to more of the offense that we had back in 2012 when Carmichael's playcalling led to the Saints finishing #3 in scoring and #2 in total yards. Hopefully Allen lets him open it up like he's always done in the past when he was call plays.

Brees retired.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2023 10:23 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 967977)
Brees retired.

Yes, he did. That just shows how important the players are to success of the team. I was all for replacing Carmichael, but it didn't happen, so I'm looking for the positives. One is that we have had great success with Carmichael calling plays in the past so all is not lost. We need a healthy line and a QB that can make plays. And, yes, we need Carmichael to open up the offense more just like he used to do when calling plays prior to this last season.

Sinner 01-20-2023 10:30 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 967968)
I propose quite the opposite lol. It is unbridled narcissism and any empathy exhibited is not genuine but rather an attempt to reflect a favorable image. He rationalizes his caustic bias as optimism, but optimism is actually healthy and doesn't start arguments.

He is allowed to do what he wishes, but so is everyone else, this is the B&G way. When it becomes problematic is when the users, not the admin, decide they have had enough of the banter and start telling those that have had enough of him that they don't want to see it. Those people are conflict averse and do not realize their passive aggressive approach does not resonate with the caustic antagonist, but instead empowers him because he cant comprehend how he could possibly be in the wrong. Narcissists are never wrong and it is always about their point of view. If you challenge their character they get triggered which is ironic considering they lie to themselves continuously.. It's a fascinating study.:smokin:

I try my hardest to ignore the mentally compromised and reflect on Twain's.. 'Don't argue with them, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.' :chug:

"If you enter into an argument with a fool, he has already won"

~ African Proverb

AsylumGuido 01-20-2023 10:34 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
This is true. Even if we had got a new OC like we all had wanted we would have still had to accomplish most or all of these things to improve the offense.


K Major 01-20-2023 11:06 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 967976)
I didn't expect any major changes especially while the Pelicans are doing so well. Why rock the boat? Their minds are clearly elsewhere right now besides the Saints.

The Saints deserve every bit of FAILURE that's headed their way in 2023.

This type of thinking/MINDSET does not stand in 98% of all other organizations. Front office is becoming a joke. Easily the worse team in the league at the moment.

Essentially force someone who publicly declared no interest in the role. Pete has done a TERRIBLE job in 2022 & yet here we are business as usual, with no changes.

Don't be surprised if Loomis and co get LOWBALLED for SP.

Loomis & Mrs. Benson will need to learn the hard way that continuity & stability doesn't sell tickets - winning does.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2023 11:13 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
Sounds like someone is going to be so very disappointed when the Saints win.

:bng:

Sinner 01-20-2023 11:37 AM

Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967981)
The Saints deserve every bit of FAILURE that's headed their way in 2023.

This type of thinking/MINDSET does not stand in 98% of all other organizations. Front office is becoming a joke. Easily the worse team in the league at the moment.

Essentially force someone who publicly declared no interest in the role. Pete has done a TERRIBLE job in 2022 & yet here we are business as usual, with no changes.

Don't be surprised if Loomis and co get LOWBALLED for SP.

Loomis & Mrs. Benson will need to learn the hard way that continuity & stability doesn't sell tickets - winning does.

It's the sad folks who keep pouring their hard-earned money and "moral support" into this "Just keep doing what you're doing" machine, that need to learn how to pull back, and become part of the solution. The bean counters do notice, when fans become disgruntled. Basically, that's the bottom line.


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