Tanking 2023 Season

SmashMouth · 02-01-2023, 09:32 AM

Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024?

Will they need to since DA is still in charge?

Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility?

None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB.

neugey · 02-01-2023, 10:33 AM

I hate tanking. Then you get good young talent with a bad culture. That s**t follows you around.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2023, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

I hate tanking. Then you get good young talent with a bad culture. That s**t follows you around.

Yup. That's why tanking doesn't work.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2023, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024?

Will they need to since DA is still in charge?

Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility?

None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB.

There's not a coach or player that gives a crap about draft picks to the point of tanking. That subject has been clarified ad nauseum.

I believe some are putting far too much blame on Allen for a seven win season. I would be very surprised if we didn't exceed that total this coming season.

And, yes, that weak division gives us an excellent chance at winning the division, as does our third place schedule.

And, yes, QB will be vital to that success. I can't wait until free agency gets underway. Or do we run a healthy Winston out there and beef up other positions through free agency?

halloween 65 · 02-01-2023, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024?

Will they need to since DA is still in charge?

Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility?

None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB.

Smash, don't worry about this. As long as Allen is the HC we should be in the top 6 on a 1st rounder next season.
That is unless that idiot Loomy does a 2fer deal again this year.

K Major · 02-01-2023, 10:59 AM

Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ...
losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints.

And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster.

Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season.

Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks.

SmashMouth · 02-01-2023, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ...
losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints.

And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster.

Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season.

Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks.

Raiders fixing to cut QB Carr, reportedly. Is he worth bringing in, or do we stick with Winston and a rookie?

Rugby Saint II · 02-01-2023, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Raiders fixing to cut QB Carr, reportedly. Is he worth bringing in, or do we stick with Winston and a rookie?

My guess is that Dennis Allen brings in a veteran quarterback to try and save his job. If he brings in a rookie and has another seven and nine season the front office may have a reason to hold on to him and see if that quarterback develops. It would be unfortunate because that would be another year with Dennis Allen calling the shots. He is much too passive to lead men.

voodooido · 02-27-2023, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ...
losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints.

And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster.

Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season.

Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks.

This is my point. No starting caliber qb but yet we won 7 games and were in many more. Just imagine if we get someone who can deliver the ball

AsylumGuido · 02-27-2023, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

This is my point. No starting caliber qb but yet we won 7 games and were in many more. Just imagine if we get someone who can deliver the ball

Exactly, voodoo! I totally believe we would have won at the very least four more games with Winston in there. All Dalton could do was dump off short passes behind the chains. He couldn't hit anyone down field. We had receivers running wide open down field all season long.

02-01-2023, 09:32 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Tanking 2023 Season Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024? Will they need to since DA is still in charge? Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility? None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB.

02-01-2023, 10:33 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Tanking 2023 Season I hate tanking. Then you get good young talent with a bad culture. That s**t follows you around. iceshack149, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-01-2023, 10:39 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by neugey I hate tanking. Then you get good young talent with a bad culture. That s**t follows you around. Yup. That's why tanking doesn't work.

02-01-2023, 10:38 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by SmashMouth Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024? Will they need to since DA is still in charge? Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility? None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB. There's not a coach or player that gives a crap about draft picks to the point of tanking. That subject has been clarified ad nauseum. I believe some are putting far too much blame on Allen for a seven win season. I would be very surprised if we didn't exceed that total this coming season. And, yes, that weak division gives us an excellent chance at winning the division, as does our third place schedule. And, yes, QB will be vital to that success. I can't wait until free agency gets underway. Or do we run a healthy Winston out there and beef up other positions through free agency?
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

02-01-2023, 10:46 AM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by SmashMouth Should the Saints tank the season for a super high draft pick in 2024? Will they need to since DA is still in charge? Does the weakest division in football negate that possibility? None of the four teams have an established starting caliber QB. Smash, don't worry about this. As long as Allen is the HC we should be in the top 6 on a 1st rounder next season. That is unless that idiot Loomy does a 2fer deal again this year. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

02-01-2023, 10:59 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ... losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints. And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster. Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season. Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.

02-01-2023, 11:19 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by K Major Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ... losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints. And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster. Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season. Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks. Raiders fixing to cut QB Carr, reportedly. Is he worth bringing in, or do we stick with Winston and a rookie?

02-01-2023, 12:37 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by SmashMouth Raiders fixing to cut QB Carr, reportedly. Is he worth bringing in, or do we stick with Winston and a rookie? My guess is that Dennis Allen brings in a veteran quarterback to try and save his job. If he brings in a rookie and has another seven and nine season the front office may have a reason to hold on to him and see if that quarterback develops. It would be unfortunate because that would be another year with Dennis Allen calling the shots. He is much too passive to lead men.

02-27-2023, 08:12 AM	#9
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by K Major Allen stays, Carmichael stays, Ryan Nielsen leaves for Atlanta, no relevant firings after a dismal 7-10 regular season ... losing to Carolina should have been the end of Dennis Allen's tenure (currently has the WORST winning % of any coach in the NFC south) as head coach of the New Orleans Saints. And oh, we have no starting caliber QB on the roster. Be prepared to run it back, "keep doing what you're doing" this season. Lol, you won't have to "tank". 2023 is going to be rough folks. This is my point. No starting caliber qb but yet we won 7 games and were in many more. Just imagine if we get someone who can deliver the ball AsylumGuido likes this.
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02-27-2023, 08:33 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Tanking 2023 Season Originally Posted by voodooido This is my point. No starting caliber qb but yet we won 7 games and were in many more. Just imagine if we get someone who can deliver the ball Exactly, voodoo! I totally believe we would have won at the very least four more games with Winston in there. All Dalton could do was dump off short passes behind the chains. He couldn't hit anyone down field. We had receivers running wide open down field all season long.