Can't Guard Mike

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2023, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You can’t guard Mike but his ankle brace has been all over him. He’s done as a saint

He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver.

Sinner · 02-17-2023, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver.

Dalton would have had to throw to the bench or the sauna to hit an open mike, and that wouldn't even be a football, just cash. That's no joke.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2023, 03:46 PM

You wonder why Michael Thomas doesn't trust the Saints medical team? If JP was still around he'd have a few things to say about that crew.

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SmashMouth · 02-18-2023, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You wonder why Michael Thomas doesn't trust the Saints medical team? If JP was still around he'd have a few things to say about that crew.

https://twitter.com/Cantguardmike/st...98611949211648

Can't solely pin it on the Saints.

Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference?

Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury?

Rugby Saint II · 02-18-2023, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can't solely pin it on the Saints.

Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference?

Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury?

We've been questioning the Saints medical team for years. Ochsner Hospital could be at fault if that's where all the team doctors come from. Didn't we purge our medical staff a few years back? We've lost several players to misdiagnosed injuries over the years. Didn't Delvin Breaux sue the medical team?

BakoSaint · 02-18-2023, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We've been questioning the Saints medical team for years. Ochsner Hospital could be at fault if that's where all the team doctors come from. Didn't we purge our medical staff a few years back? We've lost several players to misdiagnosed injuries over the years. Didn't Delvin Breaux sue the medical team?

This is why we need to rebuild. First step should be to fire our medical team, get a medical team in Houston or something that is top notch, buy a team plane, have the Houston team direct our medical operations with only the basics occuring in New Orleans. Then we should look at our players like Thomas, Peat, and Hill who have been injured repeatedly like they are houses with big mortgages that have been extensively renovated by Tim Allen's character from Home Improvement, which is essentially what the Saints doctors are. We should not want to keep those houses. We should especially not want to have big mortages on those houses. Things are going to break, and taking out second mortgages to cover the repairs will not be a good investment. Its not that the houses want to break, its that the contractor was a disaster and now there are cracks hiding beneath the sheet rock. If you know the Saints doctors are bad, then you have to realize our previously injured players who have been treated by them the most are now essentially products of their work. Let the Falcons pay for those products. Let the Bucs and Panthers pay for those products. Cut them loose, whatever it takes, the doctors and their handiwork.

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2023, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can't solely pin it on the Saints.

Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference?

Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury?

Interesting that you brought that up. Drew Brees did NOT trust the Saints doctors. When he injured his thumb he went to Dr. Steven Shin who is the director of hand surgery at Cedars-Sinai Kerlan-Jobe Institute in Los Angeles. Dr. Shin performed the surgery and oversaw Brees' recovery process.

As for being out three years, Smash, Thomas did not miss three years due to a single injury. He missed less than a year with the first high ankle injury. Then due to complications from surgery (you can thank the Saints doctors for that one) he required a second surgery and missed about eight more months. Then he suffered a totally unrelated injury to the toe of the foot on the opposite leg requiring yet another surgery. He has missed the remainder of his time to this third incident.

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2023, 01:29 PM

Honestly, if I was an NFL player I would not leave any medical decisions to the team's doctors. The team is not looking out for the welfare of the individual player. They are only looking out for the welfare of the team. I would always go outside of the team with any medical question and get a second and even a third opinion. If the independent medical experts tell me to forgo immediate surgery and try a less aggressive solution first I would without question.

The long term health of the player should always be his own top concern.

BakoSaint · 02-18-2023, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver.

This little piggy went to market. That little piggy went home. None of the little piggies went to 40 of the last 50 games. Michael Thomas has some eccentricities, as do most successful receivers, but the issue is he can't stay healthy, and there is virtually no precedent for a player being injured this much for this long and becoming reliable again. At best he is a JJ Watt or Jimmy Garappalo of receivers, at worst he is a Jahvid Best or Chad Pennington of receivers. Either way it would be foolish for a team that is not close to a ring to pay big money for highly risky depth at WR when we have two good young receivers and need to clean up our cap and get younger elsewhere on the roster. As he is now, Thomas is not worth more than $6-8 million a year as a lottery ticket.

mapcow · 02-19-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver.

Turf toe.... is the JOKE....

Cut Bait

02-17-2023, 08:08 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by voodooido You can’t guard Mike but his ankle brace has been all over him. He’s done as a saint He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver. shawnkytonk likes this.

02-17-2023, 11:31 AM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver. Dalton would have had to throw to the bench or the sauna to hit an open mike, and that wouldn't even be a football, just cash. That's no joke. Rugby Saint II, voodooido and halloween 65 like this.
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02-17-2023, 03:46 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Can't Guard Mike You wonder why Michael Thomas doesn't trust the Saints medical team? If JP was still around he'd have a few things to say about that crew. Twitter Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-18-2023, 11:38 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,792 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You wonder why Michael Thomas doesn't trust the Saints medical team? If JP was still around he'd have a few things to say about that crew. https://twitter.com/Cantguardmike/st...98611949211648 Can't solely pin it on the Saints. Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference? Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury? iceshack149 likes this.

02-18-2023, 12:20 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can't solely pin it on the Saints. Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference? Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury? We've been questioning the Saints medical team for years. Ochsner Hospital could be at fault if that's where all the team doctors come from. Didn't we purge our medical staff a few years back? We've lost several players to misdiagnosed injuries over the years. Didn't Delvin Breaux sue the medical team? AsylumGuido likes this.

02-18-2023, 07:43 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We've been questioning the Saints medical team for years. Ochsner Hospital could be at fault if that's where all the team doctors come from. Didn't we purge our medical staff a few years back? We've lost several players to misdiagnosed injuries over the years. Didn't Delvin Breaux sue the medical team? This is why we need to rebuild. First step should be to fire our medical team, get a medical team in Houston or something that is top notch, buy a team plane, have the Houston team direct our medical operations with only the basics occuring in New Orleans. Then we should look at our players like Thomas, Peat, and Hill who have been injured repeatedly like they are houses with big mortgages that have been extensively renovated by Tim Allen's character from Home Improvement, which is essentially what the Saints doctors are. We should not want to keep those houses. We should especially not want to have big mortages on those houses. Things are going to break, and taking out second mortgages to cover the repairs will not be a good investment. Its not that the houses want to break, its that the contractor was a disaster and now there are cracks hiding beneath the sheet rock. If you know the Saints doctors are bad, then you have to realize our previously injured players who have been treated by them the most are now essentially products of their work. Let the Falcons pay for those products. Let the Bucs and Panthers pay for those products. Cut them loose, whatever it takes, the doctors and their handiwork. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-18-2023, 01:17 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can't solely pin it on the Saints. Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference? Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury? Interesting that you brought that up. Drew Brees did NOT trust the Saints doctors. When he injured his thumb he went to Dr. Steven Shin who is the director of hand surgery at Cedars-Sinai Kerlan-Jobe Institute in Los Angeles. Dr. Shin performed the surgery and oversaw Brees' recovery process. As for being out three years, Smash, Thomas did not miss three years due to a single injury. He missed less than a year with the first high ankle injury. Then due to complications from surgery (you can thank the Saints doctors for that one) he required a second surgery and missed about eight more months. Then he suffered a totally unrelated injury to the toe of the foot on the opposite leg requiring yet another surgery. He has missed the remainder of his time to this third incident. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-18-2023, 01:29 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Can't Guard Mike Honestly, if I was an NFL player I would not leave any medical decisions to the team's doctors. The team is not looking out for the welfare of the individual player. They are only looking out for the welfare of the team. I would always go outside of the team with any medical question and get a second and even a third opinion. If the independent medical experts tell me to forgo immediate surgery and try a less aggressive solution first I would without question. The long term health of the player should always be his own top concern.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

02-18-2023, 12:00 PM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver. This little piggy went to market. That little piggy went home. None of the little piggies went to 40 of the last 50 games. Michael Thomas has some eccentricities, as do most successful receivers, but the issue is he can't stay healthy, and there is virtually no precedent for a player being injured this much for this long and becoming reliable again. At best he is a JJ Watt or Jimmy Garappalo of receivers, at worst he is a Jahvid Best or Chad Pennington of receivers. Either way it would be foolish for a team that is not close to a ring to pay big money for highly risky depth at WR when we have two good young receivers and need to clean up our cap and get younger elsewhere on the roster. As he is now, Thomas is not worth more than $6-8 million a year as a lottery ticket. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, mapcow and 1 others like this.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver. Turf toe.... is the JOKE.... Cut Bait Sinner likes this.
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