Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord

spkb25 · 02-12-2023, 10:20 PM

Remember when the poor guy was fired because the Saints had **** for talent on the 2012 defense. Maybe SP would have won another SB if he had kept him

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leilung · 02-13-2023, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Remember when the poor guy was fired because the Saints had **** for talent on the 2012 defense. Maybe SP would have won another SB if he had kept him

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It wasn't Spag's fault they were horrible. That was the front office doing crappy drafting.

SmashMouth · 02-13-2023, 08:20 AM

Lots of woulda coulda shouldas with SP playoffs opportunities., not the least of which was indeed bad personnel on defense under Spags. Better knowledge of the rule book would've handled two of those opportunities (both miracle endings), and the 2011 Greg Williams defense all of sudden didn't care about covering Vernon Davis. That 2011 team was arguably the Saints' most talented team ever.

At least the Saints did make the playoffs a few times and won one Tiffany !

The Meat Guy · 02-13-2023, 08:30 AM

Look... Leave SP alone. It's not his fault the defense with Spags was so bad.

At least that's what he told me when he used to come by the counter at Whole Foods.

halloween 65 · 02-13-2023, 11:52 AM

The only guy Payton ever reall stacked the D was for Allen. Spags would have done a fine job if Payton was smart about a D back then. Payton cost us Superbowls. Won 1 with Brees behind C in his prime. Let that sink in.

K Major · 02-13-2023, 11:58 AM

KC has had middle-of-pack defenses ever since Spaggs arrived.

It helps to have Reid & MVP Patrick Mahomes in your back pocket.

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2023, 02:04 PM

Dennis Allen was not that good of a defensive coordinator before Sean Payton began drafting defense with high draft picks.

saintsfan1976 · 02-14-2023, 02:08 PM

The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become.

I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2023, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become.

I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book?

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by spkb25 Remember when the poor guy was fired because the Saints had **** for talent on the 2012 defense. Maybe SP would have won another SB if he had kept him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It wasn't Spag's fault they were horrible. That was the front office doing crappy drafting. spkb25, neugey and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Lots of woulda coulda shouldas with SP playoffs opportunities., not the least of which was indeed bad personnel on defense under Spags. Better knowledge of the rule book would've handled two of those opportunities (both miracle endings), and the 2011 Greg Williams defense all of sudden didn't care about covering Vernon Davis. That 2011 team was arguably the Saints' most talented team ever. At least the Saints did make the playoffs a few times and won one Tiffany ! spkb25, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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The Meat Guy Football Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: WF Meat Counter Posts: 39	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Look... Leave SP alone. It's not his fault the defense with Spags was so bad. At least that's what he told me when he used to come by the counter at Whole Foods. spkb25, MatthewT, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord The only guy Payton ever reall stacked the D was for Allen. Spags would have done a fine job if Payton was smart about a D back then. Payton cost us Superbowls. Won 1 with Brees behind C in his prime. Let that sink in.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Dennis Allen was not that good of a defensive coordinator before Sean Payton began drafting defense with high draft picks.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become. I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become. I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time. Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by SmashMouth Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better . Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book?