Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 11:35 AM

SmashMouth · 03-10-2023, 11:55 AM

He's made plenty of $ already. It's just a matter of if he thinks other teams will come calling for a potential starter gig. If so, he's gone. If not, holding a clip board is not such a bad gig. As I stated before, I'll volunteer for that gig for a lot less $. I am awaiting a call from Kai.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He's made plenty of $ already. It's just a matter of if he thinks other teams will come calling for a potential starter gig. If so, he's gone. If not, holding a clip board is not such a bad gig. As I stated before, I'll volunteer for that gig for a lot less $. I am awaiting a call from Kai.

You probably need to back off your demands a bit.

SmashMouth · 03-10-2023, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You probably need to back off your demands a bit.

OK... I'll admit asking for my own golf cart was over the top, although I really don't think it's that egregious .

subguy · 03-10-2023, 07:39 PM

I would be real surprised if there is much interest in Winston. If you are facing a backup role at best, might as well stay where you are. I still hope we draft someone, Winston for sure isnt an answer. I pray for Carr to remain healthy.

SmashMouth · 03-10-2023, 10:36 PM

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saintsfan1976 · 03-11-2023, 08:10 AM

It's pretty simple.

He's an extremely capable backup, familiar with the system. Very unfortunate run of injuries. Keep in mind we didn't risk your health.

Either we work it out or you're free to search for another opportunity. But the next offer won't be this good...

rezburna · 03-11-2023, 08:34 AM

The Saints organization and fan base has treated Jameis Winston pretty poorly. I would like him to stay though.

WW_Who_Dat · 03-11-2023, 09:23 AM

I think JW had a very tuff act to follow rez on a couple of points. First to come here after Tampa Bay it was such a bitter rivalry it was not easy for Saints Fans to just jump in feet first.

Always understood why Coach Payton brought him in, Brees was obviously on his final run and Jamis was a talented, young veteran QB.

Secondly and most importantly JW would have always found it difficult in comparisons when replacing Brees behind center and Brees’s relationship with New Orleans and the fans straight out of the box. I think he handled himself well was a humble solid teammate but never displayed the skill sets to fit into and command the Saints offense requires to succeed IMHO..

Add in the 2 seasons of spotty play with lots of critical and persistent injuries along with his season ending injuries it was just unfortunate and regrettable. It was not due to any failure of character, effort or professionalism on his part all were above reproach. Dennis made the call, we will never know the complete story, but I don’t think final decision was made without collective input from the staff as a whole trying to put the team in the best position to win.

Would like to see him stay in the backup position but I feel certain JW will seek out any opportunity to compete for a starting position first and foremost.

If he stays for the back up and it helps the cap situation, great. But he JW leave the Saints would like say all the best to him and good luck in your NFL journey.

SmashMouth · 03-11-2023, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Saints organization and fan base has treated Jameis Winston pretty poorly. I would like him to stay though.

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

I think JW had a very tuff act to follow rez on a couple of points. First to come here after Tampa Bay it was such a bitter rivalry it was not easy for Saints Fans to just jump in feet first.

Always understood why Coach Payton brought him in, Brees was obviously on his final run and Jamis was a talented, young veteran QB.

Secondly and most importantly JW would have always found it difficult in comparisons when replacing Brees behind center and Brees’s relationship with New Orleans and the fans straight out of the box. I think he handled himself well was a humble solid teammate but never displayed the skill sets to fit into and command the Saints offense requires to succeed IMHO..

Add in the 2 seasons of spotty play with lots of critical and persistent injuries along with his season ending injuries it was just unfortunate and regrettable. It was not due to any failure of character, effort or professionalism on his part all were above reproach. Dennis made the call, we will never know the complete story, but I don’t think final decision was made without collective input from the staff as a whole trying to put the team in the best position to win.

Would like to see him stay in the backup position but I feel certain JW will seek out any opportunity to compete for a starting position first and foremost.

If he stays for the back up and it helps the cap situation, great. But he JW leave the Saints would like say all the best to him and good luck in your NFL journey.

Agreed on both points.

Still, he did have an opportunity to shine and come through. If he'd shown enough in the time he did have, this discussion wouldn't be here. He's matured. And with the money being thrown around on QBs, there is daylight for him to get more $. We'll see shortly just what kind of "strong AZZ offer" he was given, that was also cap friendly . How many current teams would consider him to lead the reins? We may be fixing to find out. As backups go, teams will likely go with younger players due to cap considerations. So if backup QB is his future going forward, Saints may be his best option. And who knows, if the unthinkable were to happen, he gets another opportunity to shine.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup He's made plenty of $ already. It's just a matter of if he thinks other teams will come calling for a potential starter gig. If so, he's gone. If not, holding a clip board is not such a bad gig. As I stated before, I'll volunteer for that gig for a lot less $. I am awaiting a call from Kai.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by SmashMouth He's made plenty of $ already. It's just a matter of if he thinks other teams will come calling for a potential starter gig. If so, he's gone. If not, holding a clip board is not such a bad gig. As I stated before, I'll volunteer for that gig for a lot less $. I am awaiting a call from Kai. You probably need to back off your demands a bit. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You probably need to back off your demands a bit. OK... I'll admit asking for my own golf cart was over the top, although I really don't think it's that egregious . Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-10-2023, 07:39 PM	#15
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup I would be real surprised if there is much interest in Winston. If you are facing a backup role at best, might as well stay where you are. I still hope we draft someone, Winston for sure isnt an answer. I pray for Carr to remain healthy. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup It's pretty simple. He's an extremely capable backup, familiar with the system. Very unfortunate run of injuries. Keep in mind we didn't risk your health. Either we work it out or you're free to search for another opportunity. But the next offer won't be this good... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup The Saints organization and fan base has treated Jameis Winston pretty poorly. I would like him to stay though. Rsanders24, SmashMouth and Saint in Aus like this.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup I think JW had a very tuff act to follow rez on a couple of points. First to come here after Tampa Bay it was such a bitter rivalry it was not easy for Saints Fans to just jump in feet first. Always understood why Coach Payton brought him in, Brees was obviously on his final run and Jamis was a talented, young veteran QB. Secondly and most importantly JW would have always found it difficult in comparisons when replacing Brees behind center and Brees’s relationship with New Orleans and the fans straight out of the box. I think he handled himself well was a humble solid teammate but never displayed the skill sets to fit into and command the Saints offense requires to succeed IMHO.. Add in the 2 seasons of spotty play with lots of critical and persistent injuries along with his season ending injuries it was just unfortunate and regrettable. It was not due to any failure of character, effort or professionalism on his part all were above reproach. Dennis made the call, we will never know the complete story, but I don’t think final decision was made without collective input from the staff as a whole trying to put the team in the best position to win. Would like to see him stay in the backup position but I feel certain JW will seek out any opportunity to compete for a starting position first and foremost. If he stays for the back up and it helps the cap situation, great. But he JW leave the Saints would like say all the best to him and good luck in your NFL journey. SaintFanInATLHELL, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-11-2023, 10:08 AM	#20
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by rezburna The Saints organization and fan base has treated Jameis Winston pretty poorly. I would like him to stay though. Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat I think JW had a very tuff act to follow rez on a couple of points. First to come here after Tampa Bay it was such a bitter rivalry it was not easy for Saints Fans to just jump in feet first. Always understood why Coach Payton brought him in, Brees was obviously on his final run and Jamis was a talented, young veteran QB. Secondly and most importantly JW would have always found it difficult in comparisons when replacing Brees behind center and Brees’s relationship with New Orleans and the fans straight out of the box. I think he handled himself well was a humble solid teammate but never displayed the skill sets to fit into and command the Saints offense requires to succeed IMHO.. Add in the 2 seasons of spotty play with lots of critical and persistent injuries along with his season ending injuries it was just unfortunate and regrettable. It was not due to any failure of character, effort or professionalism on his part all were above reproach. Dennis made the call, we will never know the complete story, but I don’t think final decision was made without collective input from the staff as a whole trying to put the team in the best position to win. Would like to see him stay in the backup position but I feel certain JW will seek out any opportunity to compete for a starting position first and foremost. If he stays for the back up and it helps the cap situation, great. But he JW leave the Saints would like say all the best to him and good luck in your NFL journey. Agreed on both points. Still, he did have an opportunity to shine and come through. If he'd shown enough in the time he did have, this discussion wouldn't be here. He's matured. And with the money being thrown around on QBs, there is daylight for him to get more $. We'll see shortly just what kind of "strong AZZ offer" he was given, that was also cap friendly . How many current teams would consider him to lead the reins? We may be fixing to find out. As backups go, teams will likely go with younger players due to cap considerations. So if backup QB is his future going forward, Saints may be his best option. And who knows, if the unthinkable were to happen, he gets another opportunity to shine. subguy and WW_Who_Dat like this.