Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 09:12 AM

That solves our backup questions. Jameis would be a fool not to take the deal.

saintsfan1976 · 03-10-2023, 09:16 AM

Depends on the deal

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Depends on the deal

Not going to find a more game ready backup. That's for sure.

But, yes, it will depend upon the deal. It's definitely going to be a sizable reduction or they would have just kept him under his current contract one would think.

Rugby Saint II · 03-10-2023, 09:28 AM

Winston apparently wasn't good enough to replace his own backup after his injury according to Dennis Allen. TBH, I'm more than a little surprised that we made the offer. If I were Winston I would have to think long and hard before taking the deal after the way DA said he wouldn't lose his starting job because of injury but then he did just that. Nonetheless, Winston rode the pine the rest of the year because DA said Dalton gave them a better chance to win.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Winston apparently wasn't good enough to replace his own backup after his injury according to Dennis Allen. TBH, I'm more than a little surprised that we made the offer. If I were Winston I would have to think long and hard before taking the deal after the way DA said he wouldn't lose his starting job because of injury but then he did just that. Nonetheless, Winston rode the pine the rest of the year because DA said Dalton gave them a better chance to win.

From everything I read and heard, Rugs, Winston had not fully recovered from the injury and that's why he wasn't returned to the starting lineup. He could play if absolutely required, but Allen had said he felt a healthy Dalton gave us a better shot at the time as you said. Now that I don't agree with, but it was his call.

BakoSaint · 03-10-2023, 09:50 AM

And if he agrees, his salary will be $1 million this year and **** tons guaranteed next year with voidable years in 2025 and 2026 because thats how we roll. Can't afford to make cuts so we try to keep everyone who is on a multi-year non-rookie deal forever unless they play well enough to merit a big raise we can't afford. Andrus Peat may die on our active roster and we may have to develop a Medicare supplement plan for active players.

Winston would be a fine backup but he would benefit much more from going somewhere like KC, LA, Buff, SF, or Den with a QB guru coach where he could become a legend if the starter goes down and he puts it all together in the right system.

neugey · 03-10-2023, 10:04 AM

Jameis is a great dude, but I'd much rather see us draft or obtain a young QB that Carr and Taysom can mentor and save money at backup QB. Maybe this new deal won't pay Jameis much, but it's still money we need to use elsewhere on the depth chart.

WW_Who_Dat · 03-10-2023, 10:16 AM

Can’t see him sticking around unless he and his agent feel there is little interest in JW. His only bargaining chip with the Saint is the current contracts owed Dead Money remaining after a post June 1 cut spread over 2023 and 2024.

Just not sure there is market for a starting position for JW at this.

MatthewT · 03-10-2023, 10:18 AM

My best guess is Andy Dalton has no interest in returning to the Saints. We all know Winston can sling the ball and can pick a defense apart if he has a ton of time to throw the ball. I could absolutely be wrong, but I don't feel Winston provides much of anything if able to get a pass rush on him.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2023, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

My best guess is Andy Dalton has no interest in returning to the Saints. We all know Winston can sling the ball and can pick a defense apart if he has a ton of time to throw the ball. I could absolutely be wrong, but I don't feel Winston provides much of anything if able to get a pass rush on him.

I don't think the Saints have a ton of interest in bringing Dalton back themselves.

I'm just hoping that all we are getting is a clipboard holder and practice partner for the next eight years or so. Derek Carr has only missed two regular season games to injury. He missed the final game in 2016 to a fractured leg and coincidentally one game in October 2017 with the exact same fracture to a transverse process that Winston experienced. He played the rest of the season with the fracture. The difference is he only broke one of them and Winston had four separate fractures.

03-10-2023, 09:12 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup That solves our backup questions. Jameis would be a fool not to take the deal. Twitter

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Depends on the deal

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Depends on the deal Not going to find a more game ready backup. That's for sure. But, yes, it will depend upon the deal. It's definitely going to be a sizable reduction or they would have just kept him under his current contract one would think.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Winston apparently wasn't good enough to replace his own backup after his injury according to Dennis Allen. TBH, I'm more than a little surprised that we made the offer. If I were Winston I would have to think long and hard before taking the deal after the way DA said he wouldn't lose his starting job because of injury but then he did just that. Nonetheless, Winston rode the pine the rest of the year because DA said Dalton gave them a better chance to win. iceshack149 and rezburna like this.

03-10-2023, 09:35 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Winston apparently wasn't good enough to replace his own backup after his injury according to Dennis Allen. TBH, I'm more than a little surprised that we made the offer. If I were Winston I would have to think long and hard before taking the deal after the way DA said he wouldn't lose his starting job because of injury but then he did just that. Nonetheless, Winston rode the pine the rest of the year because DA said Dalton gave them a better chance to win. From everything I read and heard, Rugs, Winston had not fully recovered from the injury and that's why he wasn't returned to the starting lineup. He could play if absolutely required, but Allen had said he felt a healthy Dalton gave us a better shot at the time as you said. Now that I don't agree with, but it was his call.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,744	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup And if he agrees, his salary will be $1 million this year and **** tons guaranteed next year with voidable years in 2025 and 2026 because thats how we roll. Can't afford to make cuts so we try to keep everyone who is on a multi-year non-rookie deal forever unless they play well enough to merit a big raise we can't afford. Andrus Peat may die on our active roster and we may have to develop a Medicare supplement plan for active players. Winston would be a fine backup but he would benefit much more from going somewhere like KC, LA, Buff, SF, or Den with a QB guru coach where he could become a legend if the starter goes down and he puts it all together in the right system. MarchingOn likes this.
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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Jameis is a great dude, but I'd much rather see us draft or obtain a young QB that Carr and Taysom can mentor and save money at backup QB. Maybe this new deal won't pay Jameis much, but it's still money we need to use elsewhere on the depth chart. subguy, iceshack149, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,163 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Can’t see him sticking around unless he and his agent feel there is little interest in JW. His only bargaining chip with the Saint is the current contracts owed Dead Money remaining after a post June 1 cut spread over 2023 and 2024. Just not sure there is market for a starting position for JW at this. halloween 65 likes this.

03-10-2023, 10:18 AM	#9
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup My best guess is Andy Dalton has no interest in returning to the Saints. We all know Winston can sling the ball and can pick a defense apart if he has a ton of time to throw the ball. I could absolutely be wrong, but I don't feel Winston provides much of anything if able to get a pass rush on him. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-10-2023, 10:27 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints Offer Restructured Contract to Winston as Backup Originally Posted by MatthewT My best guess is Andy Dalton has no interest in returning to the Saints. We all know Winston can sling the ball and can pick a defense apart if he has a ton of time to throw the ball. I could absolutely be wrong, but I don't feel Winston provides much of anything if able to get a pass rush on him. I don't think the Saints have a ton of interest in bringing Dalton back themselves. I'm just hoping that all we are getting is a clipboard holder and practice partner for the next eight years or so. Derek Carr has only missed two regular season games to injury. He missed the final game in 2016 to a fractured leg and coincidentally one game in October 2017 with the exact same fracture to a transverse process that Winston experienced. He played the rest of the season with the fracture. The difference is he only broke one of them and Winston had four separate fractures.
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