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Boston Saint 04-06-2023 11:52 AM

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Whoever was behind the decision, it doesn’t seem like a wise move. Like Riaton said, The Chiefs, bills, Eagles, or any number of other teams that have a young establish QB could have possibly wanted to trade into the top 10 to draft him. He (or his team) may have just let his ego talk his way out of being on a perennial playoff contender. Nice move dip****.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 972537)
Whoever was behind the decision, it doesn’t seem like a wise move. Like Riaton said, The Chiefs, bills, Eagles, or any number of other teams that have a young establish QB could have possibly wanted to trade into the top 10 to draft him. He (or his team) may have just let his ego talk his way out of being on a perennial playoff contender. Nice move dip****.

I've heard it was entirely the decision of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus is one of the very best agents in the business. It was suggested it would serve a dual purpose. One, it could weed out teams that were simply curious, but not serious, which would be a waste of time. Two, it could bring to light teams that are considering moving into the top 10. Those teams not currently in the top 10 can still approach Rosenhaus with the idea that they may make a move if they can.

Boston Saint 04-06-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 972548)
I've heard it was entirely the decision of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus is one of the very best agents in the business. It was suggested it would serve a dual purpose. One, it could weed out teams that were simply curious, but not serious, which would be a waste of time. Two, it could bring to light teams that are considering moving into the top 10. Those teams not currently in the top 10 can still approach Rosenhaus with the idea that they may make a move if they can.

If so, that’s stupid.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2023 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 972552)
If so, that’s stupid.

The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more.

We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5.

Boston Saint 04-06-2023 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 972556)
The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more.

We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5.

Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 972557)
Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me. :D

Boston Saint 04-06-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 972558)
Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me. :D

The old appeal to authority logical fallacy.

The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 972561)
The old appeal to authority logical fallacy.

The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course.

Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together. :D

Boston Saint 04-06-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 972563)
Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together. :D

If they aren’t precluded from contacting them for a meeting then putting out the information is a meaningless waste of time. And egos are big in the NFL. I fully believe there are organizations that will put this as a red mark against him.

I’m not gonna argue about it with you. Riaton made a comment and I agree with it. It’s a bad look to offer a blanket denial for interviews. It speaks of entitlement (especially from a rookie) and that’s not what I think is good in a locker room. If you disagree because he has an agent you admire good for you. I haven’t heard of many other guaranteed top pics doing this.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 972566)
If they aren’t precluded from contacting them for a meeting then putting out the information is a meaningless waste of time. And egos are big in the NFL. I fully believe there are organizations that will put this as a red mark against him.

I’m not gonna argue about it with you. Riaton made a comment and I agree with it. It’s a bad look to offer a blanket denial for interviews. It speaks of entitlement (especially from a rookie) and that’s not what I think is good in a locker room. If you disagree because he has an agent you admire good for you.

A red mark against who? Carter? LOL! He's already got a whole ledger of red marks against him.

Boston, I believe you are projecting how you would feel if someone limited you from requesting a meeting. First of all, everyone involved knows that Carter has nothing to do personally with his agent's plan. At this point he's probably doing the smart thing, following orders, and keeping his mouth shut.

As for what a locker room thinks about it, they couldn't care less. I can't tell you how many times I have heard players say that what other players do or say about contracts is none of their business.

As for Rosenhaus, I have no more admiration or lack there of than any other agent. What I do know is than he is very well respected by the GM's. Most all of the top agents and the GM's get along very well from all indications and I wasn't just kidding around about the golf. I have heard that more deals are probably made on the course than around a table. LOL! I honestly don't think any of them take things as personally as you might suspect.


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