Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

A red mark against who? Carter? LOL! He's already got a whole ledger of red marks against him.

Boston, I believe you are projecting how you would feel if someone limited you from requesting a meeting. First of all, everyone involved knows that Carter has nothing to do personally with his agent's plan. At this point he's probably doing the smart thing, following orders, and keeping his mouth shut.

As for what a locker room thinks about it, they couldn't care less. I can't tell you how many times I have heard players say that what other players do or say about contracts is none of their business.

As for Rosenhaus, I have no more admiration or lack there of than any other agent. What I do know is than he is very well respected by the GM's. Most all of the top agents and the GM's get along very well from all indications and I wasn't just kidding around about the golf. I have heard that more deals are probably made on the course than around a table. LOL! I honestly don't think any of them take things as personally as you might suspect.

It’s incredible that you’ve called me argumentative before. Stuff like this is why I had no problem taking a break from the site. Your narcissistic, obsessive need to force others to agree with your point of view in order to fulfill your need for validation is sad. I could easily keep pointing out logical flaws and inconsistencies in your opinions of what goes on in NFL locker rooms between players and your ASSumptions of the workings of agent/GMs relationships because you consume NFL media through an IV. You aren’t worth the effort of discussion because you aren’t genuinely interested.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2023, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It’s incredible that you’ve called me argumentative before. Stuff like this is why I had no problem taking a break from the site. Your narcissistic, obsessive need to force others to agree with your point of view in order to fulfill your need for validation is sad. I could easily keep pointing out logical flaws and inconsistencies in your opinions of what goes on in NFL locker rooms between players and your ASSumptions of the workings of agent/GMs relationships because you consume NFL media through an IV. You aren’t worth the effort of discussion because you aren’t genuinely interested.

Whoa! Simple discussions, my friend. Relax. Take a breath.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Whoa! Simple discussions, my friend. Relax. Take a breath.

You say I’m projecting. You Type “LOL”at points I make. All after I post that I’m not going to argue with you about this. Kiss my rear! I come here to enjoy the saints. Nor to have to defend my opinions to jerks like you.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2023, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You say I’m projecting. You Type “LOL”at points I make. All after I post that I’m not going to argue with you about this. Kiss my rear! I come here to enjoy the saints. Nor to have to defend my opinions to jerks like you.

Boston, I LOL'd at Carter creating his own red marks. Not at you at all. I also LOL'd about how GM's and agent do half their negotiating on golf courses. That's funny, but true.

I'm sorry you took anything I said as belittling you. I have gone back through and read everything I wrote and can't see why you got so upset.

Once again, I'm sorry if I upset you. It wasn't my intention.

Rugby Saint II · 04-09-2023, 12:52 PM

I'm positive that we'll move up in the first round for a project lineman with a mad RAS that may or may not develop. It's what we do.

CheramieIII · 04-09-2023, 07:30 PM

No trade up this year! Best fit at DE in the 1st! Plenty of value remaining with our pick! We’ll get a RB or TE with our 2nd and the opposite positions for our third pick! Then they will plug holes on the defensive line, Safety, CB and WR!

K Major · 04-10-2023, 10:11 AM

I hope the Saints stay put this year.

We need an impact player on that defensive line.

Who knows what the front office brass will do.

leilung · 04-10-2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hope the Saints stay put this year.

We need an impact player on that defensive line.

Who knows what the front office brass will do.

Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL.

Rugby Saint II · 04-10-2023, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL.

I like it, but we didn't upgrade our run stopping game and we need to beef up the IDL before we go into the season again with a weak interior rush. I agree that we need a speed rusher, someone to contain mobile QB's, but I'd counter with an interior lineman who can collapse the pocket and get pressure on the QB.

Derek Carr likes his TE's. We have JJ and Trautman but not much else behind them. Taysom isn't a TE. He's a weapon that defies a pigeonhole role. Give him another weapon in the draft. This is a deep TE draft iirc. Get one in the middle rounds and focus on the needs rather than the wants early in the draft.

We have a good RB room, but we may need to bring in a player with a similar style to AK, since his legal issues are likely to get him suspended this season. But it's a deep RB draft this year. Get a good RB in the third round. I believe that's where we drafted AK. We don't know what Benjamin offers yet, so give him some serious competition in training camp with a mid-round draft pick. Whoever it is they need to be able to pick up the blitz.

IOL, IDL, RB, TE, possession receiver to back up MT, and safety are my biggest concerns. We have the draft picks in the middle rounds to draft good players that fit the system if we don't give them away to trade up.

mapcow · 04-11-2023, 11:06 AM

Trade the thug for a decent honorable player.... let him beat up people and ruin another team's rep. Adios Alvin

04-06-2023, 03:20 PM	#71
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido A red mark against who? Carter? LOL! He's already got a whole ledger of red marks against him. Boston, I believe you are projecting how you would feel if someone limited you from requesting a meeting. First of all, everyone involved knows that Carter has nothing to do personally with his agent's plan. At this point he's probably doing the smart thing, following orders, and keeping his mouth shut. As for what a locker room thinks about it, they couldn't care less. I can't tell you how many times I have heard players say that what other players do or say about contracts is none of their business. As for Rosenhaus, I have no more admiration or lack there of than any other agent. What I do know is than he is very well respected by the GM's. Most all of the top agents and the GM's get along very well from all indications and I wasn't just kidding around about the golf. I have heard that more deals are probably made on the course than around a table. LOL! I honestly don't think any of them take things as personally as you might suspect. It’s incredible that you’ve called me argumentative before. Stuff like this is why I had no problem taking a break from the site. Your narcissistic, obsessive need to force others to agree with your point of view in order to fulfill your need for validation is sad. I could easily keep pointing out logical flaws and inconsistencies in your opinions of what goes on in NFL locker rooms between players and your ASSumptions of the workings of agent/GMs relationships because you consume NFL media through an IV. You aren’t worth the effort of discussion because you aren’t genuinely interested. iceshack149, frydaddy and K Major like this.
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04-06-2023, 05:18 PM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint It’s incredible that you’ve called me argumentative before. Stuff like this is why I had no problem taking a break from the site. Your narcissistic, obsessive need to force others to agree with your point of view in order to fulfill your need for validation is sad. I could easily keep pointing out logical flaws and inconsistencies in your opinions of what goes on in NFL locker rooms between players and your ASSumptions of the workings of agent/GMs relationships because you consume NFL media through an IV. You aren’t worth the effort of discussion because you aren’t genuinely interested. Whoa! Simple discussions, my friend. Relax. Take a breath.

04-06-2023, 05:22 PM	#73
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Whoa! Simple discussions, my friend. Relax. Take a breath. You say I’m projecting. You Type “LOL”at points I make. All after I post that I’m not going to argue with you about this. Kiss my rear! I come here to enjoy the saints. Nor to have to defend my opinions to jerks like you. mapcow, frydaddy and K Major like this.

04-06-2023, 05:36 PM	#74
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint You say I’m projecting. You Type “LOL”at points I make. All after I post that I’m not going to argue with you about this. Kiss my rear! I come here to enjoy the saints. Nor to have to defend my opinions to jerks like you. Boston, I LOL'd at Carter creating his own red marks. Not at you at all. I also LOL'd about how GM's and agent do half their negotiating on golf courses. That's funny, but true. I'm sorry you took anything I said as belittling you. I have gone back through and read everything I wrote and can't see why you got so upset. Once again, I'm sorry if I upset you. It wasn't my intention.

04-09-2023, 12:52 PM	#75
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04-09-2023, 07:30 PM	#76
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick No trade up this year! Best fit at DE in the 1st! Plenty of value remaining with our pick! We’ll get a RB or TE with our 2nd and the opposite positions for our third pick! Then they will plug holes on the defensive line, Safety, CB and WR! WW_Who_Dat likes this.

04-10-2023, 10:11 AM	#77
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick I hope the Saints stay put this year. We need an impact player on that defensive line. Who knows what the front office brass will do.

04-10-2023, 10:51 AM	#78
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,436	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by K Major I hope the Saints stay put this year. We need an impact player on that defensive line. Who knows what the front office brass will do. Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL.

04-10-2023, 11:34 AM	#79
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by leilung Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL. I like it, but we didn't upgrade our run stopping game and we need to beef up the IDL before we go into the season again with a weak interior rush. I agree that we need a speed rusher, someone to contain mobile QB's, but I'd counter with an interior lineman who can collapse the pocket and get pressure on the QB. Derek Carr likes his TE's. We have JJ and Trautman but not much else behind them. Taysom isn't a TE. He's a weapon that defies a pigeonhole role. Give him another weapon in the draft. This is a deep TE draft iirc. Get one in the middle rounds and focus on the needs rather than the wants early in the draft. We have a good RB room, but we may need to bring in a player with a similar style to AK, since his legal issues are likely to get him suspended this season. But it's a deep RB draft this year. Get a good RB in the third round. I believe that's where we drafted AK. We don't know what Benjamin offers yet, so give him some serious competition in training camp with a mid-round draft pick. Whoever it is they need to be able to pick up the blitz. IOL, IDL, RB, TE, possession receiver to back up MT, and safety are my biggest concerns. We have the draft picks in the middle rounds to draft good players that fit the system if we don't give them away to trade up.
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04-11-2023, 11:06 AM	#80
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