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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I've seen many people talk about how this guy isn't top-level talent. I don't think people realize what a death sentence the raiders are for QBs. Yet, somehow, this guy still performed. When I watch this guy, he checks all ...

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Old 04-02-2023, 04:50 PM   #1
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Derek Carr is going to shock the world

I've seen many people talk about how this guy isn't top-level talent. I don't think people realize what a death sentence the raiders are for QBs. Yet, somehow, this guy still performed. When I watch this guy, he checks all the boxes for me. I think he's a lot better than people think he is and will be one of the top QBs in the league this year. He's Drew Brees 2.0.
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:16 PM   #2
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I've seen many people talk about how this guy isn't top-level talent. I don't think people realize what a death sentence the raiders are for QBs. Yet, somehow, this guy still performed. When I watch this guy, he checks all the boxes for me. I think he's a lot better than people think he is and will be one of the top QBs in the league this year. He's Drew Brees 2.0.
I agree with all of that.
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:27 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by hitta View Post
I've seen many people talk about how this guy isn't top-level talent. I don't think people realize what a death sentence the raiders are for QBs. Yet, somehow, this guy still performed. When I watch this guy, he checks all the boxes for me. I think he's a lot better than people think he is and will be one of the top QBs in the league this year. He's Drew Brees 2.0.
I feel exactly the same hitta. Now Saints need to get the Oline squared away, our weapons need to be available and the defense doing what the do best hold our opponents to 24 points or less.

That said and it comes to pass there we’ll be a lot of recalibration by Talking Heads but I’m sure they will explain to all of us how they were calling his resurgence as a top tier NFL QB all along we just missed it. 🤣 These guys like to go straight to pinnacle top opinions, great or not worthy no middle ground.
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:31 PM   #4
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Re: Derek Carr is going to shock the world

Because Carmichael needs to get his act together I think we need to pump the brakes a little. But I hope long term you are right.
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:59 PM   #5
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Re: Derek Carr is going to shock the world

This requires Dennis Allen or Pete Carmichael to be a sharper offensive mind than Jon Gruden. I am skeptical of that. Cities don't throw footballs or design plays, QBs and coaches do.

The Raiders once signed a mid-career QB who had shown promise with the Saints, under the premise that the Saints were a death sentence for QBs, and up until a rocky final year, this young Saints QB had always performed so all he needed was a change in scenery to shine. The Raiders had a recent history of strong QB production, but their Super Bowl QB had retired and their offensive guru coach had moved on to another conference. Yet, the Raiders felt sure that even with a less proven coach, they could take a QB who had been good, if inconsistent, with the Saints and make him a star in Oakland given their franchises better track record at the QB position. They felt that merely the luster of their city, and the jokes about the franchise this QB had come from, would be enough to turn a QB around who had begun to show signs of fading. That QB was Aaron Brooks. It turned out that the Saints being a death sentence of QBs was not Brooks only problem, and whatever truth their might have been to the sentence, it had already been carried out and the product was DOA.
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Old 04-02-2023, 07:48 PM   #6
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I feel exactly the same hitta. Now Saints need to get the Oline squared away, our weapons need to be available and the defense doing what the do best hold our opponents to 24 points or less.

That said and it comes to pass there we’ll be a lot of recalibration by Talking Heads but I’m sure they will explain to all of us how they were calling his resurgence as a top tier NFL QB all along we just missed it. 🤣 These guys like to go straight to pinnacle top opinions, great or not worthy no middle ground.
It really depends upon the ones you happen to hear. I've heard several that have been touting him as greatly underrated and a perfect fit for the Saints. Most of them have been ex-QB's. Drew Brees can be counted as among them. Perhaps the most important among them.
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Because Carmichael needs to get his act together I think we need to pump the brakes a little. But I hope long term you are right.
I believe giving Carmichael both Thomas and Carr will do wonders with getting his act together.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:23 AM   #8
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Re: Derek Carr is going to shock the world

My concern with Carr is there was a big decline in his performance in 2022, compared to 2018-2021. I didn't follow the Raiders close enough to understand why numbers dropped so bad, I guess all we can hope for is he is good moving forward.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:50 AM   #9
 
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Just curious if the Raiders were a death sentence to Jamarcus Russell too ?!?
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:18 AM   #10
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Re: Derek Carr is going to shock the world

He certainly has all the physical tools. Intangibles like high character and leadership.

If healthy, this team should win 10 games and possibly host a playoff game.

But I'll caution just as I did last year - so much change in one offseason usually means much of the season can be spent building rapport on and off the field. Don't expect instant success...
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