Draft Week - Final Picks

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2023, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones.

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

SmashMouth · 04-24-2023, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little.

2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF.

I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal.

This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds.

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2023, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little.

2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF.

I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal.

This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds.

Notice that we have made EIGHT 1st round selections over the last seven years. Interesting, huh?

SmashMouth · 04-24-2023, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Notice that we have made EIGHT 1st round selections over the last seven years. Interesting, huh?

It's really 5 that stick of the 8.

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2023, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It's really 5 that stick of the 8.

In the scheme of NFL drafting that's a pretty strong average.

cmike · 04-24-2023, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

I’d like to take a moment and single out Payton Turner.
Payton is in the MT13 realm of football players. Payton has proved to be one of the most dominating players on the field when active and healthy. The difference is Mike had seasons where he proved he was top 5 at his position.
Payton’s been not so lucky. Just look at how he was injured last season. Payton was dominating the game and got injured after making an outstanding defensive play.
I’m far from giving up on either of them.

04-24-2023, 03:14 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by SmashMouth I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones. I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell cmike likes this.
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04-24-2023, 03:40 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,979 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little. 2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF. I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal. This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds.

04-24-2023, 03:53 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by SmashMouth Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little. 2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF. I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal. This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds. Notice that we have made EIGHT 1st round selections over the last seven years. Interesting, huh?

04-24-2023, 04:13 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,979 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Notice that we have made EIGHT 1st round selections over the last seven years. Interesting, huh? It's really 5 that stick of the 8.

04-24-2023, 04:22 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by SmashMouth It's really 5 that stick of the 8. In the scheme of NFL drafting that's a pretty strong average.

04-24-2023, 03:41 PM	#6
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell I’d like to take a moment and single out Payton Turner. Payton is in the MT13 realm of football players. Payton has proved to be one of the most dominating players on the field when active and healthy. The difference is Mike had seasons where he proved he was top 5 at his position. Payton’s been not so lucky. Just look at how he was injured last season. Payton was dominating the game and got injured after making an outstanding defensive play. I’m far from giving up on either of them.