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AsylumGuido 08-08-2023 08:19 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-08-2023 11:17 AM
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Rugby Saint II 08-08-2023 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976829)
If Barr signs then I'm happy. If Hunt signs I'm happy. If they both sign I'm ecstatic.

SmashMouth 08-08-2023 04:25 PM
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K Major 08-08-2023 08:13 PM
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More guards, please.


Camp bodies would work.

SmashMouth 08-08-2023 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 976877)
More guards, please.


Camp bodies would work.
And a worthy backup to Ramz.

K Major 08-09-2023 08:45 AM
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Better keep searching for another LB.

No one has any idea what you have behind Demario & Pete W.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2023 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 976880)
Better keep searching for another LB.

No one has any idea what you have behind Demario & Pete W.
No fan does, that's for certain. I would think, however, the coaches have a tad bit of insight as to what they may have.

SmashMouth 08-09-2023 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 976880)
Better keep searching for another LB.

No one has any idea what you have behind Demario & Pete W.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976882)
No fan does, that's for certain. I would think, however, the coaches have a tad bit of insight as to what they may have.
That has to be the line of thinking, neaux?

Demario is already sidelined with a "calf" strain.

Surely there is a reason they passed on Kwon and a few others.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2023 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 976890)
That has to be the line of thinking, neaux?

Demario is already sidelined with a "calf" strain.

Surely there is a reason they passed on Kwon and a few others.
I have a feeling Demario would be playing if this were the regular season. One thing I have noticed since Dr. Matt Rhea came on board is that at the earliest sign of soft tissue issues they shut the player down, especially in the preseason.

And let's not forget that most of us casual fans didn't think Kaden Ellis was anything to hang a hat on until he got a chance with Werner sidelined. I'm sure the coaches knew about his capabilities. We have seven LB on the roster right now behind Davis and Werner. They can't all be busts. I'm not saying to not make a move to improve, but things may not be as dire as some may believe.

Rugby Saint II 08-09-2023 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976906)
I have a feeling Demario would be playing if this were the regular season. One thing I have noticed since Dr. Matt Rhea came on board is that at the earliest sign of soft tissue issues they shut the player down, especially in the preseason.

And let's not forget that most of us casual fans didn't think Kaden Ellis was anything to hang a hat on until he got a chance with Werner sidelined. I'm sure the coaches knew about his capabilities. We have seven LB on the roster right now behind Davis and Werner. They can't all be busts. I'm not saying to not make a move to improve, but things may not be as dire as some may believe.
That is a valuable snippet about Kaden Ellis being an unknown until he took the field when Werner missed time last year. We are pretty good at developing players who need time and coaching to get it together. The thing is that we have better player evaluations and bring in young players who have the physical tools but need coaching and/or strength training.

Demario having an injury should allow us to see what we have behind Davis. Fortunately, it's a soft tissue injury that can heal with proper training and rehab. The Saints LB depth looks promising and the young players have had strong camps.

We finally get to see them in action this Sunday and I'm as excited as a teenager on his first date. :lightsabre:

AsylumGuido 08-09-2023 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 976913)
That is a valuable snippet about Kaden Ellis being an unknown until he took the field when Werner missed time last year. We are pretty good at developing players who need time and coaching to get it together. The thing is that we have better player evaluations and bring in young players who have the physical tools but need coaching and/or strength training.

Demario having an injury should allow us to see what we have behind Davis. Fortunately, it's a soft tissue injury that can heal with proper training and rehab. The Saints LB depth looks promising and the young players have had strong camps.

We finally get to see them in action this Sunday and I'm as excited as a teenager on his first date. :lightsabre:
Watch where you're pointing that thing.

Rugby Saint II 08-10-2023 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976917)
Watch where you're pointing that thing.
I have no control over him....

Thirty3 08-10-2023 04:53 PM
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Reading about power rankings and they picked the saints at 15 supposedly because Kamara will be out 3 games. They were all worried about the saints offense without him wondering who will replace those yards. Personally I have no question that the saints will be very powerful without him. I'd rather have him - he puts fear in the opponent when he gets the ball and is valuable as a decoy for all sorts of plays. Here's a thought. Why not let Hill run Kamara's plays while he is out. He may not be as smooth as AK but he's as fast. Once he has the ball who wants to tackle him? Big as a fullback and about as fast as it gets.

Boston Saint 08-10-2023 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 976992)
Reading about power rankings and they picked the saints at 15 supposedly because Kamara will be out 3 games. They were all worried about the saints offense without him wondering who will replace those yards. Personally I have no question that the saints will be very powerful without him. I'd rather have him - he puts fear in the opponent when he gets the ball and is valuable as a decoy for all sorts of plays. Here's a thought. Why not let Hill run Kamara's plays while he is out. He may not be as smooth as AK but he's as fast. Once he has the ball who wants to tackle him? Big as a fullback and about as fast as it gets.
Not a bad idea but I have a feeling he’d get hurt.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 05:52 PM
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Reflects new reserve entries and Jaylon Smith's addition.

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 5:37 PM, August 10th.


OFFENSE

LWR13THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/218Kirkwood, Keith CF1811Edwards, Bryan SF2388Davis, Shaquan CF2385Kirklin, Jontre SF23
RWR12Olave, Chris 22/117Perry, A.T. 23/689Washington, James SF2315Baker, Kawaan 21/7  
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2210Smith, Tre'Quan 18/384Bowden, Lynn SF2316Coutee, Keke SF23  
LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
TE83Johnson, Juwan CF2082Moreau, Foster U/LV7HILL, TAYSOM W/GB80GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/387Krull, Lucas CF22
TE      81James, Jesse U/Cle86Holtz, J.P. U/Chi
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV2Winston, Jameis U/TB14Haener, Jake 23/4    
RB30Williams, Jamaal U/Det25Miller, Kendre 23/333Merritt, Kirk SF2235Merriweather, Ellis CF23  
FB46Prentice, Adam W/Den47Bargas, Jake SF23      

DEFENSE

LDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/192Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC54Lalos, Niko SF2291Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ  
LDT93Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/195Heflin, Jack SF23    
RDT99Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Roach, Malcolm CF2057Emili, Prince SF2277Cage, Jerron CF23  
RDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/298Turner, Payton 21/1    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2258Orji, Anfernee CF23    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/542Summers, Ty P/Jax40Anderson, Nick CF23  
SLB53Baun, Zack 20/3 Smith, Jaylon U/NYG43Connelly, Ryan SF23    
LCB1Taylor, Alontae 22/229Adebo, Paulson 21/337Pride Jr., Troy SF2336Johnson, Anthony CF23  
SS6Maye, Marcus U/NYJ31Howden, Jordan 23/524Abram, Johnathan U/Sea    
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Monday, Smoke CF22    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/127Yiadom, Isaac SF2244Frye, Adrian CF23    
NB21ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou28Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten00Amadi, Ugo SF23    

SPECIAL TEAMS

[TABLE]PT 5 Gillikin, Blake CF20 39 HEDLEY, LOU CF23
PK 3 Lutz, Wil SF16 19 Grupe, Blake CF23
LS 49 WOOD, ZACH SF17
H 5 Gillikin, Blake CF20 39 HEDLEY, LOU CF23
KO 3 Lutz, Wil SF16 19 Grupe, Blake CF23
PR 22 Shaheed, Rashid CF22
KR 22 Shaheed, Rashid CF22/TABLE]

RESERVES

RES41Kamara, Alvin SUS26Benjamin, Eno IR59TURNER, TRAI IR50Dowell, Andrew IR61Lashley, Scott IR
RES60Martin, Koda IR        

AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:32 AM
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Thirty3 08-11-2023 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 977002)
Not a bad idea but I have a feeling he’d get hurt.
He's been pretty tough the last few years. I was actually referring to his route tree and catches out of the backfield. Tight end room is pretty full.

Rugby Saint II 08-12-2023 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 977073)
He's been pretty tough the last few years. I was actually referring to his route tree and catches out of the backfield. Tight end room is pretty full.
We need to designate Taysom as football player. Not a TE, QB, RB, WR,..... Taysom defines a football player.....but defies a single position.

saintsfan1976 08-13-2023 08:21 AM
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I’m still saying we need another WR.

K Major 08-13-2023 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 977111)
I’m still saying we need another WR.
Curious to see what AT Perry, Edwards & Washington can do.

Dennis Allen has already stated that this will be more of a "redshirt" season for Shaq Davis.

AsylumGuido 08-13-2023 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 977114)
Curious to see what AT Perry, Edwards & Washington can do.

Dennis Allen has already stated that this will be more of a "redshirt" season for Shaq Davis.
That's the position I'm looking at, too.

AsylumGuido 08-13-2023 06:43 PM
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AsylumGuido 08-14-2023 04:09 PM
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There's that camp body we needed. Who knows? maybe he shows enough to make the team.

saintsfan1976 08-14-2023 04:18 PM
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We need more O linemen. The depth is thin and historically speaking, the injuries are all but guaranteed.

saintsfan1976 08-14-2023 04:19 PM
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Saunders is giving me Norman Hand vibes and I love it.

K Major 08-14-2023 04:29 PM
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Bump …

Saints sign RB Darrel Williams.

Source - Nick U

K Major 08-14-2023 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 977318)
We need more O linemen. The depth is thin and historically speaking, the injuries are all but guaranteed.
Truth. So many games are won & lost in those trenches.

17 games + the possibility of post season.

The NFL is such a grind.

AsylumGuido 08-14-2023 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 977318)
We need more O linemen. The depth is thin and historically speaking, the injuries are all but guaranteed.
And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.

SmashMouth 08-14-2023 08:06 PM
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Another LSU player? WTFoskey! SP is reaching for his bong right about now.

Boston Saint 08-14-2023 08:50 PM
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Well, looking at his career stats his YPC isn’t great. However he has either a TD or first down on 34% of his carries for his career. That’s higher than Kamara or Delvin Cook. So maybe he’s become a short yardage/goal line specialist.

(Looking for the silver lining).

saintsfan1976 08-15-2023 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 977324)
And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.
Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.

AsylumGuido 08-15-2023 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 977344)
Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    

AsylumGuido 08-15-2023 12:33 PM
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Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 5:26 PM, August 14th.


OFFENSE

LWR13THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/218Kirkwood, Keith CF1811Edwards, Bryan SF2388Davis, Shaquan CF23  
RWR12Olave, Chris 22/117Perry, A.T. 23/615Baker, Kawaan 21/785Kirklin, Jontre SF23  
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2210Smith, Tre'Quan 18/389Washington, James SF2384Bowden, Lynn SF23  
LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
TE83Johnson, Juwan CF2082Moreau, Foster U/LV7HILL, TAYSOM W/GB80GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/387Krull, Lucas CF22
TE      81James, Jesse U/Cle86Holtz, J.P. U/Chi
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV2Winston, Jameis U/TB14Haener, Jake 23/4    
RB30Williams, Jamaal U/Det25Miller, Kendre 23/333Merritt, Kirk SF2235Merriweather, Ellis CF23 Williams, Darrel U/Arz
FB46Prentice, Adam W/Den47Bargas, Jake SF23      

DEFENSE

LDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/192Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC54Lalos, Niko SF2291Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ  
LDT93Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/195Heflin, Jack SF23    
RDT99Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Roach, Malcolm CF2057Emili, Prince SF2277Cage, Jerron CF23  
RDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/298Turner, Payton 21/1    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2258Orji, Anfernee CF23    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/542Summers, Ty P/Jax40Anderson, Nick CF23  
SLB53Baun, Zack 20/359Smith, Jaylon U/NYG43Connelly, Ryan SF23    
LCB1Taylor, Alontae 22/229Adebo, Paulson 21/337Pride Jr., Troy SF2336Johnson, Anthony CF23  
SS6Maye, Marcus U/NYJ31Howden, Jordan 23/524Abram, Johnathan U/Sea    
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Monday, Smoke CF22    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/127Yiadom, Isaac SF2244Frye, Adrian CF23    
NB21ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou28Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten00Amadi, Ugo SF23    

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
PK3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
KO3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        

RESERVES

RES41Kamara, Alvin SUS26Benjamin, Eno IR59TURNER, TRAI IR50Dowell, Andrew IR61Lashley, Scott IR

Rugby Saint II 08-15-2023 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 977344)
Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....:roll:
Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.

Boston Saint 08-15-2023 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 977376)
Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....:roll:
Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.
We’ve invested pretty high in the D line too with mixed success. Take away Jordan then you have guys like Turner and Davenport that were misses too. Foskey and Bresee are wait and sees.

AsylumGuido 08-15-2023 03:57 PM
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James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.

SmashMouth 08-15-2023 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 977380)
James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...52935832866960

https://twitter.com/brookechesney/st...52108523438262
AT Perry made him expendable ...

K Major 08-15-2023 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 977382)
AT Perry made him expendable ...
Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.

AsylumGuido 08-15-2023 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 977383)
Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.
Yeah, even Brees called him out on that.


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