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Yeah but Jimmy G does the nitty gritty work on Fridays… and then rests again on Sundays. Get your facts straight, saintfan in disguise. 😂

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Lol.

What’s crazy is that he actually CONTRIBUTES in the red zone when
he has seen the field but these dumb a** coaches kept him inactive
for almost a month.

For a team that has struggled ALL SEASON in the R/Z, makes no sense.

Do you think that type of decision making would fly in
Philly, San Fran, Dallas (pains me to mention them) MIA or KC?

The lack of quality coaching has cost this team in 2023 season.

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The 2023 season and BEYOND… a Damn Shame.

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Latest updates.

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 12:42 PM, December 10th.


OFFENSE

LWR	17	Perry, A.T. 23/6
RWR	12	Olave, Chris 22/1	18	Kirkwood, Keith CF18
SWR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23
LT	75	PEAT, ANDRUS 15/1	70	Penning, Trevor 22/1
LG	74	HURST, JAMES CC/Bal	73	GARCIA, MAX U/Arz
C	78	McCoy, Erik 19/2
RG	51	Ruiz, Cesar 20/1
RT	71	Ramczyk, Ryan 17/1	67	Young, Landon 21/6
TE	83	Johnson, Juwan CF20	7	HILL, TAYSOM W/GB	87	Moreau, Foster U/LV	80	GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/3
QB	4	CARR, DEREK CC/LV	2	Winston, Jameis U/TB	3	Haener, Jake 23/4
RB	41	Kamara, Alvin 17/3	21	Williams, Jamaal U/Det	25	Miller, Kendre 23/3
FB	46	Prentice, Adam W/Den

DEFENSE

LDE	94	JORDAN, CAMERON 11/1	92	Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC
LDT	99	Saunders, Khalen U/KC	90	Bresee, Bryan 23/1
RDT	93	SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ	54	Mustipher, P.J. P/Den
RDE	96	Granderson, Carl CF19	55	Foskey, Isaiah 23/2	91	Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ
WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi CF22	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5
SLB	53	Baun, Zack 20/3	42	Summers, Ty P/Jax
LCB	29	Adebo, Paulson 21/3	11	Dantzler Sr., Cameron SF23
SS	32	MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC	24	Abram, Johnathan U/Sea
FS	31	Howden, Jordan 23/5	28	Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten	48	Gray, J.T. CF18
RCB	27	Yiadom, Isaac SF22
NB	1	Taylor, Alontae 22/2	00	Amadi, Ugo SF23

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
PK	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
LS	49	WOOD, ZACH SF17
H	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
KO	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
PR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23
KR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23

PRACTICE SQUAD

PS	77	ERVING, CAMERON OT	86	Jacobson, Michael TE	89	Hudson, Tommy TE	37	Mims, Jordan RB	57	Lalos, Niko DE
PS	10	Callaway, Marquez WR	38	Jean-Charles, Shemar CB	58	Orji, Anfernee LB	68	Evans II, Mark OT	30	Hicks, Faion CB
PS	88	Davis, Shaquan WR	62	Kraemer, Tommy OG	76	Penisini, John DT	85	Kirklin, Jontre WR	95	Heflin, Jack DT

RESERVES

RES	98	Turner, Payton IR-2	13	THOMAS, MICHAEL IR-12	23	Lattimore, Marshon IR-12	97	Roach, Malcolm IR-14	6	Maye, Marcus IR-14
RES	64	Saldiveri, Nick IR-14	26	Benjamin, Eno IR	59	TURNER, TRAI IR	50	Dowell, Andrew IR	43	Connelly, Ryan PS/INJ

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Yawn…

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Looks like Robinson won the tryouts.

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Kendre Miller (rookie) ... he probably won't play another game this season.

Saints better start scouting RBs in the 2024 draft. This guy won't be able to help you long term at the position. He's brittle.

Questionable draft pick.

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I wonder where the list of "needs" are for tackle in the 2024 draft?

Coaches aren't even mentioning Trevor Penning after the benching, specifically OL coach Doug Marrone. Not sure what's going on @ practice but apparently he's not improving.

0 offensive snaps last 3 games.

It could be coaching (ranked bottom tier in run & pass blocking) however I have my doubts about the former 1st rounder.

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They were talking the struggles of offensive lines across the entire league a little earlier today on NFL Radio. Sacks are trending to blow away the league record this season. Among the factors that were given are the simplistic offenses being run across college teams everywhere. They are not being asked to hold blocks with the spread/West Coast and their tendency to get the ball out so fast. Almost no teams have the QB under center anymore. Limited practice time is also a factor. The NCAA is now limiting all football related activities to 20 hours per week. That not only includes actual practices, but also other workouts, meeting times and even game day activities including the game itself. Offensive linemen are coming into the league less developed than ever before in the history of the NFL. This not only means delaying the development of the players once they get into the NFL, but also making the selection process more difficult when it comes to the draft with the evaluation of the players.

Interesting points made in the show.

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Translation: Saints are nearing the end of sucky season number two. FOCUS.

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IMO the Saints need a lot this off season.

Not to mention key contributors will be a year OLDER & slower.

Get some young talent in here for 2024, new HC with a real plan.

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Translation: NOTHING substantial is getting close to continuing to be nothing substantial.

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Latest update and reminder that Michael Thomas and Marshon Lattimore are eligible to return to the active roster next week.

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 6:16 PM, December 12th.


OFFENSE

LWR	17	Perry, A.T. 23/6
RWR	12	Olave, Chris 22/1	18	Kirkwood, Keith CF18
SWR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23
LT	75	PEAT, ANDRUS 15/1	70	Penning, Trevor 22/1
LG	74	HURST, JAMES CC/Bal	73	GARCIA, MAX U/Arz
C	78	McCoy, Erik 19/2
RG	51	Ruiz, Cesar 20/1
RT	71	Ramczyk, Ryan 17/1	67	Young, Landon 21/6
TE	83	Johnson, Juwan CF20	7	HILL, TAYSOM W/GB	87	Moreau, Foster U/LV	80	GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/3
QB	4	CARR, DEREK CC/LV	2	Winston, Jameis U/TB	3	Haener, Jake 23/4
RB	41	Kamara, Alvin 17/3	21	Williams, Jamaal U/Det	25	Miller, Kendre 23/3
FB	46	Prentice, Adam W/Den

DEFENSE

LDE	94	JORDAN, CAMERON 11/1	92	Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC
LDT	99	Saunders, Khalen U/KC	90	Bresee, Bryan 23/1
RDT	93	SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ	54	Mustipher, P.J. P/Den
RDE	96	Granderson, Carl CF19	55	Foskey, Isaiah 23/2	91	Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ
WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi CF22	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5
SLB	53	Baun, Zack 20/3	42	Summers, Ty P/Jax
LCB	29	Adebo, Paulson 21/3	11	Dantzler Sr., Cameron SF23
SS	32	MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC	24	Abram, Johnathan U/Sea
FS	31	Howden, Jordan 23/5	28	Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten	48	Gray, J.T. CF18
RCB	27	Yiadom, Isaac SF22
NB	1	Taylor, Alontae 22/2	00	Amadi, Ugo SF23

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
PK	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
LS	49	WOOD, ZACH SF17
H	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
KO	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
PR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23
KR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	5	Bowden Jr., Lynn SF23

PRACTICE SQUAD

PS	77	ERVING, CAMERON OT	86	Jacobson, Michael TE	89	Hudson, Tommy TE	37	Mims, Jordan RB	57	Lalos, Niko DE
PS	10	Callaway, Marquez WR	38	Jean-Charles, Shemar CB	58	Orji, Anfernee LB	68	Evans II, Mark OT	30	Hicks, Faion CB
PS	88	Davis, Shaquan WR	62	Kraemer, Tommy OG	76	Penisini, John DT	85	Kirklin, Jontre WR	95	Heflin, Jack DT
PS	26	Robinson, James RB

RESERVES

RES	98	Turner, Payton IR-2	13	THOMAS, MICHAEL IR-12	23	Lattimore, Marshon IR-12	97	Roach, Malcolm IR-14	6	Maye, Marcus IR-14
RES	64	Saldiveri, Nick IR-14	26	Benjamin, Eno IR	59	TURNER, TRAI IR	50	Dowell, Andrew IR	43	Connelly, Ryan PS/INJ

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Edited the updated roster above based upon this news.

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Yawn…

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This is something I believe we've discussed in here. College has no incentive to ready players for the NFL. I've read that with the NCAA now allowing only 20 total hours per week (including game day) the schools have to keep things as vanilla as possible and cannot spend much time on individual development including things as basic as fundamentals.

Every player entering the league these days require some degree of development. Many of these are thrown to the wolves given the lack of NFL ready players across the entire league. Welcome to the new age of football.

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It's being reported that the Saints decided to shut down Kendre Miller for the rest of the year. Hopefully James Robinson will provide that much needed boost during the stretch run.

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Where's it being reported? I can't find it anywhere. Not saying I don't believe you, but there's no mention of it anywhere and I search everywhere. :D

Got a link or something?

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Matt Moscona reported it:

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He's been wrong before. Many times. LOL. He "reported" Kamara was going to get released some time after the Vegas affair. Maybe he got one right. Usually one of the beat writers would have mentioned it by now. Underhill or Triplett are always on these moves fast.

I'd heard and read the James Robinson signing was because of a Jamaal Williams groin injury during practice. I guess we'll see.

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Just two days ago John DeShazier was reporting "he's close" to returning.

Personally not at all surprised on Miller. He was in and out of the lineup here @ TCU (Ft. Worth) over the years.

Again, the Saints need to re visit the RB room via 2024 draft. Miller isn't going to last at this level.

Matt Moscona's take is dead on (terrible coaches not utilizing JWilliams in NO) as usual.

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Just two days ago.

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I doubt he reports intentional bad info, I do believe things change by the second in the NFL. Guess we find out over the next couple days if Miller gets put on IR or not.

As for Kamara I don't think we will ever really know what the Saints really wanted to do with him, the salary cap made that decision to keep him around necessary.

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Right.

As for Miller, I’m not holding my breath. He’s brittle.

Taysom (older), Jamal (hamstring issues) & Miller.

Big picture, better get AK some help at RB in 2024.

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I agree. He doesn't intentionally share bad info. He just has a tendency to frequently state his suspicions as fact. He's primarily a commentator as opposed to a reporter.

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Yup. Just another one of Moscona's erroneous "assumptions" stated as fact.

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Yawnnnnn…

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Right.

Miller can’t save the Saints anyways. They have bigger issues.

Double yawn 🥱 .

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Speaking of non contributors…

Payton Turner.

Sure as hell could use another DE on Sunday 😳. Should have moved a little more aggressively to bring in another pass rusher before the trade deadline.

The Devito kid sure as hell knows how to take off and
run for first downs. Saqaun Barkley is no slouch either.

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Good points. G Men are going to be in a bad mood too.

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For all of those griping about the Saints "letting JPP get stolen off their practice squad" ...

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How did all that turn out?

;) :doh:

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Yup. Matt Moscona is still batting below the Mendoza Line.

:D

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Matt Moscona is known for his LSU coverage and doesn't even watch the Saints games, go to training camp, or go to practices. He is not a person in the know for Saints football. He just parrots other reporters words.

I'm not a fan. I initially liked him but he's too over the top for me.

Edit: He also revoked his Saints fan card when we signed Derek Carr. That, my friends, is a fair weather fan! :dunce:

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RT, LT, P, K, S, DE, QB, RB (Miller won't last long term)

Areas of need for the Saints in 2024.

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Agreed, with the addition LB position (just not sold on it, could use a coverage backer; Davis, the leader while still a beast is showing some wear).

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I like Payton Wilson from NC State. He's a sideline to sideline LB with great coverage and rushing skills. He opted out of the Pop-Tarts Bowl yesterday from which his absence was very noticeable.

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Just watched some highlights, looks quick. wherever he lands, no doubt they will bulk him up some. 6 4 230. I know he's adequate size, but for some reason he still looks a little small. but i do like his quickness.