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The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We need more O linemen. The depth is thin and historically speaking, the injuries are all but guaranteed. And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams ...

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Old 08-14-2023, 05:40 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
We need more O linemen. The depth is thin and historically speaking, the injuries are all but guaranteed.
And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.
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Old 08-15-2023, 04:48 AM   #2
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And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.
Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
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Old 08-15-2023, 09:01 AM   #3
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Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    

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Old 08-16-2023, 11:12 AM   #4
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And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:36 AM   #5
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Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
Baun actually looked good this past weekend. He made some splash plays.

That said, why would we think any offensive lineman drafted instead of any of those players would eventually turn out any better than what we currently have to work with this camp? Once again, it all comes down to health. There isn't a team in the league with enough quality depth to not struggle with losing two or three starting offensive linemen. Not even the mighty "Feagles".

It seems there are only so many humans alive that have the ability and desire to be a great offensive lineman. I would love it if we had a full compliment of nine of them to start the season. But, like you, I have no idea how to go about that.

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Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
Doesn't hurt anymore. Water under the bridge. Woulda', coulda', shoulda' has no impact on anything moving forward.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
Indeed.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
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Doesn't hurt anymore. Water under the bridge. Woulda', coulda', shoulda' has no impact on anything moving forward.
It's the very same argument. Historically, no player other than a very few handful are worth two number ones in a move up situation in the draft. Yes, Mahomes is one of those rare exceptions. Ingram's career was good, but still not worth two ones, arguably. I expect us to witness this very same argument play out with the former QB from Bama.

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Indeed.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
*Lamar Jackson
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