I know he's a fan fav. But does anyone know what the cap hit/ savings would be if we let Hill go?

Even if there was no cap hit what would be the added value to the team in letting him go?

It's a roster spot and cap space. Looking at what he brings (at that price tag) should be more than his athleticism. I'm specifically referring to what he contributes game to game as a position player. TE? Not much there... QB? Gadgetry but not much there either. Special Teams? Hell yes, but at that cost?

Just trying to see where he fits other than being a swiss army knife in our pocket, because we're currently stacked at TE and QB.

It's a roster spot and cap space. Looking at what he brings (at that price tag) should be more than his athleticism. I'm specifically referring to what he contributes game to game as a position player. TE? Not much there... QB? Gadgetry but not much there either. Special Teams? Hell yes, but at that cost?

Just trying to see where he fits other than being a swiss army knife in our pocket, because we're currently stacked at TE and QB.

It's a roster spot and cap space. Looking at what he brings (at that price tag) should be more than his athleticism. I'm specifically referring to what he contributes game to game as a position player. TE? Not much there... QB? Gadgetry but not much there either. Special Teams? Hell yes, but at that cost?

Just trying to see where he fits other than being a swiss army knife in our pocket, because we're currently stacked at TE and QB.

Sean Payton introduced Taysom's role when Drew was losing his arm strength as a joker role and his role has grown exponentially since then. Now that we have Carr, good receivers, and a good running back room do we still need to run a system set up on gimmick plays with Taysom? Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that we phase out TH but is Pete Carmichael creative enough to run two different systems that can be integrated? Last season PC only got creative when the media called him out for lack of creativity.

Sean Payton introduced Taysom's role when Drew was losing his arm strength as a joker role and his role has grown exponentially since then. Now that we have Carr, good receivers, and a good running back room do we still need to run a system set up on gimmick plays with Taysom? Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that we phase out TH but is Pete Carmichael creative enough to run two different systems that can be integrated? Last season PC only got creative when the media called him out for lack of creativity.

I seriously doubt Carmichael gives a crap about what the media or fans think.

But you are correct in how often he was used over the last seven games of the season. He averaged almost 8.5 touches over that period. Perhaps the rib injuries he suffered in the preseason and again in the 2nd game played a part in his reduced role. Plus the need for him to be available at QB with Winston being out for most of the early part of the season probably came into play, too.

I stand by what I said. PC got creative at the same time when he was criticized by fans and media alike for the lack of ingenuity in his play calling. He was slow to change his stale play calling and instead he dusted off Payton's playbook. He still didn't introduce anything new later in the season. He just reached deeper into Payton's playbook.

In my opinion, Carmichael is limited to calling plays from Payton's playbook. Nonetheless, that could work very with Derek Carr running that type of offense. Hopefully, we'll see a great game plan every week now that you have faith in your QB executing the game plan.

More importantly than being a fan favorite, I believe he's also a team favorite. I just can't envision the scenario where the Saints wouldn't want Hill on their roster. He is arguably one of the two or three top athletes on the entire roster. Even if there was no cap hit what would be the added value to the team in letting him go?

Arguably even more so than McCaffery, now with the Whiners.

Hill sat out Week 3 with a rib injury and returned in Week 4 against the Minnesota Vikings.[72] He took snaps at quarterback, rotating with Andy Dalton. From the quarterback position, Hill scored his second touchdown of the season on a goal line play out of a shotgun formation. Hill also took snaps while positioned at wide receiver.[73]
On October 9, Hill had one of the best statistical games of his career against the Seattle Seahawks, scoring a career-high four touchdowns in a 39–32 win. In total, he recorded nine carries for 122 yards and three touchdowns (including a go-ahead 60-yard touchdown run), completed his only pass for a 22-yard score, and recovered a fumble on special teams.[74] For his performance, Hill was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week.[75]