Trade kamara

Rugby Saint II · 06-17-2023, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Leaked videos aren't the tell all. We'll get to know more as we get closer to the court date, if it even gets that far.

Let's get the full story after the trial when all the facts are out in public. Nonetheless, I believe that Kamara was justified in punching the dude a couple of times. I probably would have hit him a couple of more times to ensure that he got my message but I would stop short of curb stomping him. It's hard to believe that someone could piss of mild mannered AK that much.

BakoSaint · 06-18-2023, 05:00 PM

Mostly it doesn’t matter if he is mother theresa or the son of sam. He is an aging running back with declining stats and injuries behind an aging and injured oline. Every once in a blue moon you get an adrian peterson or emmitt smith but for every one of them there are a dozen runners with short careers. In general, your not looking for maturity in a running back, your looking for youth, and if you think a running back has a couple good years left, what you want is an exit strategy if you overestimated by a couple years.

Boston Saint · 06-18-2023, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Mostly it doesn’t matter if he is mother theresa or the son of sam.

It matters to me. Hence my post about not looking at him the same way. I like pulling for individuals of hi moral fiber. Maybe that’s lost in today’s society

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2023, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It matters to me. Hence my post about not looking at him the same way. I like pulling for individuals of hi moral fiber. Maybe that’s lost in today’s society

Then you are pulling for one individual in history, my friend. We all have done things that we regret. I'd be willing to bet that some here have done worse than young Alvin in their lives. What's lost in society is recognizing the fact that we as humans do wrong and need to be striving to overcome those transgressions.

Rugby Saint II · 06-19-2023, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Then you are pulling for one individual in history, my friend. We all have done things that we regret. I'd be willing to bet that some here have done worse than young Alvin in their lives. What's lost in society is recognizing the fact that we as humans do wrong and need to be striving to overcome those transgressions.

Oh, I've done worse but it was not caught on tape. Thank god! I was a bad boy.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2023, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh, I've done worse but it was not caught on tape. Thank god! I was a bad boy.

They didn't even have tape way back then. Just black & white silent film with piano accompaniment.

MatthewT · 06-21-2023, 07:16 AM

The Saints o-line is fine for AK's running style. The problem with AK is those legs get banged up and it limits the explosiveness of a guy who's game is about balance, moves, and quickness.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2023, 08:37 AM

Do y'all know the main difference between the great offensive lines of the dominant Saints offenses of a decade or so ago and what we have today? Two years of unprecedented injuries and development retarded by a pandemic. Those earlier lines played virtually every snap of every game as a unit. Their supposed depth never saw the field beyond coming in as an extra eligible lineman. All five of our projected starters are 1st round selections. If they can stay on the field together there's no reason why they can't be one of the most elite lines in the league.

During the season we have traditionally kept eight offensive lineman on the 53 man roster over the years. You can easily see our depth charts as of the first day of every month going back to June of 2007 at Ourlads.com. Our potential depth this year is not really inferior to that of most any other year. Sure, we had Strief, but we also had Matt Tennant and Pat McQuistan the rest of the depth. I would argue that James Hurst, Billy Price, and the rookie Saldiveri are just as good as what we had back then.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2023, 02:17 PM

Rugby Saint II · 06-21-2023, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do y'all know the main difference between the great offensive lines of the dominant Saints offenses of a decade or so ago and what we have today? Two years of unprecedented injuries and development retarded by a pandemic. Those earlier lines played virtually every snap of every game as a unit. Their supposed depth never saw the field beyond coming in as an extra eligible lineman. All five of our projected starters are 1st round selections. If they can stay on the field together there's no reason why they can't be one of the most elite lines in the league.

Continuity is essential on the O-line. We keep forgetting that Covid hampered us...well, that and running from hurricanes.

During the season we have traditionally kept eight offensive lineman on the 53 man roster over the years. Our potential depth this year is not really inferior to that of most any other year. Sure, we had Strief, but we also had Matt Tennant and Pat McQuistan the rest of the depth. I would argue that James Hurst, Billy Price, and the rookie Saldiveri are just as good as what we had back then.

Penning knows the playbook and system now. When his foot is healed he should seamlessly be able to step into LT allowing Hurst to slide over to LG. That leaves Landon Young, Calvin Throckmorton, Andrus Peat, Lewis Kidd, Nick Saldiveri, Storm Norton, and Billy Price battling for the three or four back up spots.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team.

If the players are a year older and they are healthy then I can live with that. Our mid round draft pick was the first player chosen when the run on O-linemen started. The fourth round has produced some really good O-linemen in the past.

06-17-2023, 12:25 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by SmashMouth Leaked videos aren't the tell all. We'll get to know more as we get closer to the court date, if it even gets that far. Let's get the full story after the trial when all the facts are out in public. Nonetheless, I believe that Kamara was justified in punching the dude a couple of times. I probably would have hit him a couple of more times to ensure that he got my message but I would stop short of curb stomping him. It's hard to believe that someone could piss of mild mannered AK that much.

06-18-2023, 05:00 PM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,392	Re: Trade kamara Mostly it doesn’t matter if he is mother theresa or the son of sam. He is an aging running back with declining stats and injuries behind an aging and injured oline. Every once in a blue moon you get an adrian peterson or emmitt smith but for every one of them there are a dozen runners with short careers. In general, your not looking for maturity in a running back, your looking for youth, and if you think a running back has a couple good years left, what you want is an exit strategy if you overestimated by a couple years. SmashMouth likes this.
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06-18-2023, 05:16 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by BakoSaint Mostly it doesn’t matter if he is mother theresa or the son of sam. It matters to me. Hence my post about not looking at him the same way. I like pulling for individuals of hi moral fiber. Maybe that’s lost in today’s society jnormand, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-18-2023, 06:14 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by Boston Saint It matters to me. Hence my post about not looking at him the same way. I like pulling for individuals of hi moral fiber. Maybe that’s lost in today’s society Then you are pulling for one individual in history, my friend. We all have done things that we regret. I'd be willing to bet that some here have done worse than young Alvin in their lives. What's lost in society is recognizing the fact that we as humans do wrong and need to be striving to overcome those transgressions.

06-19-2023, 01:28 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Then you are pulling for one individual in history, my friend. We all have done things that we regret. I'd be willing to bet that some here have done worse than young Alvin in their lives. What's lost in society is recognizing the fact that we as humans do wrong and need to be striving to overcome those transgressions. Oh, I've done worse but it was not caught on tape. Thank god! I was a bad boy. AsylumGuido likes this.

06-19-2023, 02:13 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh, I've done worse but it was not caught on tape. Thank god! I was a bad boy. They didn't even have tape way back then. Just black & white silent film with piano accompaniment. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-21-2023, 07:16 AM	#7
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Trade kamara The Saints o-line is fine for AK's running style. The problem with AK is those legs get banged up and it limits the explosiveness of a guy who's game is about balance, moves, and quickness. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-21-2023, 08:37 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Trade kamara Do y'all know the *main* difference between the great offensive lines of the dominant Saints offenses of a decade or so ago and what we have today? Two years of unprecedented injuries and development retarded by a pandemic. Those earlier lines played virtually every snap of every game as a unit. Their supposed depth never saw the field beyond coming in as an extra eligible lineman. All five of our projected starters are 1st round selections. If they can stay on the field together there's no reason why they can't be one of the most elite lines in the league. During the season we have traditionally kept eight offensive lineman on the 53 man roster over the years. You can easily see our depth charts as of the first day of every month going back to June of 2007 at Ourlads.com. Our potential depth this year is not really inferior to that of most any other year. Sure, we had Strief, but we also had Matt Tennant and Pat McQuistan the rest of the depth. I would argue that James Hurst, Billy Price, and the rookie Saldiveri are just as good as what we had back then.
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06-21-2023, 04:14 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do y'all know the *main* difference between the great offensive lines of the dominant Saints offenses of a decade or so ago and what we have today? Two years of unprecedented injuries and development retarded by a pandemic. Those earlier lines played virtually every snap of every game as a unit. Their supposed depth never saw the field beyond coming in as an extra eligible lineman. All five of our projected starters are 1st round selections. If they can stay on the field together there's no reason why they can't be one of the most elite lines in the league. Continuity is essential on the O-line. We keep forgetting that Covid hampered us...well, that and running from hurricanes. During the season we have traditionally kept eight offensive lineman on the 53 man roster over the years. Our potential depth this year is not really inferior to that of most any other year. Sure, we had Strief, but we also had Matt Tennant and Pat McQuistan the rest of the depth. I would argue that James Hurst, Billy Price, and the rookie Saldiveri are just as good as what we had back then. Penning knows the playbook and system now. When his foot is healed he should seamlessly be able to step into LT allowing Hurst to slide over to LG. That leaves Landon Young, Calvin Throckmorton, Andrus Peat, Lewis Kidd, Nick Saldiveri, Storm Norton, and Billy Price battling for the three or four back up spots. Originally Posted by BakoSaint The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team. If the players are a year older and they are healthy then I can live with that. Our mid round draft pick was the first player chosen when the run on O-linemen started. The fourth round has produced some really good O-linemen in the past.
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