Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge

rezburna · 08-11-2023, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Fair enough. I understand and respect both viewpoints. Certainly his actions don’t amount to what Sharper’s actions were. Plus I’ll be the first to say that football is by its nature a violent sport. It’s not surprising that the people who play it at the highest level have a sense of violence in them.

The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.

Rugby Saint II · 08-12-2023, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.

Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright.

rezburna · 08-12-2023, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

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Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright.

I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂

Rugby Saint II · 08-12-2023, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂

Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol

Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive.

rezburna · 08-12-2023, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol

Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive.

True! If he does like most RB’s maybe he’ll retire around 30.

Rugby Saint II · 08-12-2023, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

True! If he does like most RB’s maybe he’ll retire around 30.

I could see us giving him a team friendly contract extension if he wants to stay here and retire a life long Saint.

That would be nice.

rezburna · 08-12-2023, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I could see us giving him a team friendly contract extension if he wants to stay here and retire a life long Saint.

That would be nice.

I think we should. Players look at things like that when deciding where they want to be. Showing loyalty to players that have earned it is a good thing in my book.

Boston Saint · 08-12-2023, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.

I agree with most of this rez. I will say one more thing though and finish my piece. You mention you are not Ok with domestic violence. I agree and respect you for saying that.

Kamara was put into a stressful, non-life threatening (probably not even injury threatening considering it was 5 or 6 to one) situation and he chose to resort to excessive violence. A person who would be part of that is more likely to have an issue with domestic violence than a person who would have used restraint.

08-11-2023, 04:30 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Boston Saint Fair enough. I understand and respect both viewpoints. Certainly his actions don’t amount to what Sharper’s actions were. Plus I’ll be the first to say that football is by its nature a violent sport. It’s not surprising that the people who play it at the highest level have a sense of violence in them. The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

08-12-2023, 10:32 AM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by rezburna The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo. Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright. Boston Saint likes this.

08-12-2023, 11:12 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II [/B] Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright. I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂 Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-12-2023, 11:14 AM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by rezburna I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂 Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive.

08-12-2023, 11:26 AM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive. True! If he does like most RB’s maybe he’ll retire around 30. Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-12-2023, 07:00 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by rezburna True! If he does like most RB’s maybe he’ll retire around 30. I could see us giving him a team friendly contract extension if he wants to stay here and retire a life long Saint. That would be nice.

08-12-2023, 10:02 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I could see us giving him a team friendly contract extension if he wants to stay here and retire a life long Saint. That would be nice. I think we should. Players look at things like that when deciding where they want to be. Showing loyalty to players that have earned it is a good thing in my book. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

08-12-2023, 12:28 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by rezburna The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo. I agree with most of this rez. I will say one more thing though and finish my piece. You mention you are not Ok with domestic violence. I agree and respect you for saying that. Kamara was put into a stressful, non-life threatening (probably not even injury threatening considering it was 5 or 6 to one) situation and he chose to resort to excessive violence. A person who would be part of that is more likely to have an issue with domestic violence than a person who would have used restraint.