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Rugby Saint II 08-28-2023 01:48 PM

Trades & Cuts
 
I only watch the Saints play football anymore and I don't know the other teams rosters. Who has trade value for us? Who could we trade for? Who is going to be available on the waiver wire? Who will get poached before we can sign them to the practice squad?

I want OLine and maybe a punter. It's a shame that 3Q is untradeable and only has value to us. Shaq won't make it through the waivers.

K Major 08-28-2023 01:57 PM

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Not Saints related but I see Smash's favorite RB (Ozigbo) was cut from the Lions today.

MatthewT 08-28-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 978237)
I only watch the Saints play football anymore and I don't know the other teams rosters. Who has trade value for us? Who could we trade for? Who is going to be available on the waiver wire? Who will get poached before we can sign them to the practice squad?

I want OLine and maybe a punter. It's a shame that 3Q is untradeable and only has value to us. Shaq won't make it through the waivers.

How would you feel about Matt Araiza? He is likely the best available punter, I have no idea how the fan base would react to him.

Crusader 08-28-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 978248)
How would you feel about Matt Araiza? He is likely the best available punter, I have no idea how the fan base would react to him.

If I remember correctly he was cleared of all wrongdoing?

AsylumGuido 08-28-2023 04:47 PM

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rezburna 08-28-2023 05:09 PM

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Isiah Simmons was so cheap. We should have got him.

BakoSaint 08-28-2023 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978256)

This is true but it doesnt mean we can be careless. We almost lost Shaheed by stashing him on the practice squad. In risk management you have to account for near misses too. The practice squad is useful but if we convince ourselves we can stash anyone we will eventually lose the next Shaheed. I would protect upside. I am not too worried about Krull bc he cant catch but I would not risk losing Perry.

K Major 08-28-2023 06:44 PM

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So it begins ...

Saints waive Nick Anderson (Tulane LB).

Source - John Hendrix

The Dude 08-28-2023 07:34 PM

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I sure hope we keep Lutz, Grupe looks good but we don't know how he's going to do under pressure. Especially if he gets hit or has to try and stop someone. He's gonna get steamrolled. We kind of know what we have in Lutz.
Mark my words, going with Grupe will be our undoing

voodooido 08-28-2023 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 978261)
I sure hope we keep Lutz, Grupe looks good but we don't know how he's going to do under pressure. Especially if he gets hit or has to try and stop someone. He's gonna get steamrolled. We kind of know what we have in Lutz.
Mark my words, going with Grupe will be our undoing

All kickers get steamrolled. They get paid to kick. Right now Lutz is being out preformed

The Dude 08-28-2023 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 978262)
All kickers get steamrolled. They get paid to kick. Right now Lutz is being out preformed

Not many kickers weigh 150lbs soaking wet. Toby Gowen would argue otherwise.

K Major 08-28-2023 08:12 PM

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Also released ...

Jake Bargas (FB) ...
Prince Emili (DT)

Edit ** - adding Kawaan Baker

Source > Mike Triplett

BakoSaint 08-28-2023 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 978263)
Not many kickers weigh 150lbs soaking wet. Toby Gowen would argue otherwise.

So what your saying is that when Grupe gets hit its going to look more like we should get a first down than when Lutz gets hit?

SmashMouth 08-28-2023 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 978260)
So it begins ...

Saints waive Nick Anderson (Tulane LB).

Source - John Hendrix


SmashMouth 08-28-2023 09:21 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 07:30 AM

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Nope. You have to keep Roby.


dizzle88 08-29-2023 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978270)

I'm not sold on Alontae Taylor yet, he got beat a few times in Preseason.

Have to keep Roby, as you said.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 07:34 AM

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FYI


▫️Players let go with fewer than 4 seasons of service will hit waivers
▫️Waiver claims will be processed by Noon ET on Wednesday
▫️Players let go with more than 4 seasons of service become free agents immediately and can sign elsewhere at 4:01 PM ET
▫️Players moved to Reserve/PUP (or NFI) today will miss a minimum of 4 games
▫️Any player moved to IR today at 4 PM ET is *not* eligible to return and out for the season
▫️16-man practice squads take shape tomorrow at 1 PM ET. All free agents are eligible to join one

K Major 08-29-2023 08:25 AM

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I don't expect Will Lutz to get cut either.

You were 100% wrong sir :mad:.

turbo_dog 08-29-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 978268)

I was pulling for Baker to be a dark horse and make the team. He was one of the first University of South Alabama draft picks, the school only having a football team for 10-15 years.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 10:33 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 10:38 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 10:58 AM

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Wait! What?


GeauxForMore 08-29-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978287)

Very confused. I don't trust Taylor in the slot at all.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:03 AM

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SmashMouth 08-29-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978287)

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Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 978288)
Very confused. I don't trust Taylor in the slot at all.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978289)

I called it a while back... He's been standing around looking rather than participating whilst on the field.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:11 AM

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Don't think this one comes as a surprise to anyone.


MatthewT 08-29-2023 11:23 AM

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https://www.milehighreport.com/2023/...icker-wil-lutz

Here it is!

Report: Broncos trade for kicker Wil Lutz
The Broncos have traded for kicker Wil Lutz and he will now reunite with head coach Sean Payton.

BakoSaint 08-29-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978289)

There are definitely other explanations for cutting Roby than having 12-14 corners worthy of making the team. If could be we lack confidence in both roby and the alternatives and went with youth. It could be we dont want to guarantee his salary and think we can pick him back up after week 1. It could be that after seeing the depth issues in preseason we arent in win now mode and are looking for youth. It could be he got in a fight with michael thomas at practice.

K Major 08-29-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 978292)
https://www.milehighreport.com/2023/...icker-wil-lutz

Here it is!

Report: Broncos trade for kicker Wil Lutz
The Broncos have traded for kicker Wil Lutz and he will now reunite with head coach Sean Payton.

Whoa!

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 978292)
https://www.milehighreport.com/2023/...icker-wil-lutz

Here it is!

Report: Broncos trade for kicker Wil Lutz
The Broncos have traded for kicker Wil Lutz and he will now reunite with head coach Sean Payton.

Not really surprised. There was so little difference in how they performed this camp and Lutz would bring the better compensation. In fact, I believe Grupe's numbers may have actually been better.

K Major 08-29-2023 11:41 AM

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Roby? Now THAT was the "surprise" cut of the 2023 season.

Personally, I would have kept him around.

You'll need that experience .. specificially down the stretch and in to the post seaosn.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:42 AM

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Curious to see if there's more to this one here.



AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:44 AM

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I like his confidence.


SmashMouth 08-29-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 978297)

Not a bad calculation...

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 978299)
Not a bad calculation...

Here's a possibility ...


Halo 08-29-2023 11:58 AM

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Sean Payton remaking Saints at Broncos?

BakoSaint 08-29-2023 11:59 AM

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With some veterans, especially ones with an injury history, i wonder if the calculation could be to release them and then add back to avoid guaranteeing full years salary. This could also pair with some surprise moves to stash players on IR to make room.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 978301)
Sean Payton remaking Saints at Broncos?


AsylumGuido 08-29-2023 12:06 PM

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From the link above ...

But there’s a catch. Because Smith was been released, not waived, he won’t hit the waiver wire like many other players being let go at the roster cuts deadline. He’s free to choose his next team — or return to New Orleans. The Saints could have a handshake agreement in place to release him on Tuesday so they can place an injured player like Tre’Quan Smith, Landon Young, or Ryan Connelly on injured reserve on Wednesday, at which point they could re-sign Smith.

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FYI

Players placed on IR prior to the cutdown cannot return at all. Players placed on IR after the cutdown are eligible to return during the season. But they must be on the 53 man roster at 4:00 today.


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