Observations from the Saints win vs Titans

BakoSaint · 09-10-2023, 07:02 PM

The whole 'Raiders stink' thing needs to be questioned. Today the Raiders beat a team of similar caliber to the Titans by 1 point with a decent but unspectacular performance by their QB. They played just about the same game as us. Carr played similar to his level of play with the Raiders. Edwards who we took the Raider stink off of didnt make the team. Moreau who we took the Raiders stink off of did not have a catch, not sure if he played. The Raiders took the Patriots and 49ers stink off Jakobi Meyers and Jimmy Garappalo and are winning their division. If we want to be dominant we need to look hard at our mistakes and correct them, not just take for granite we are some tiffany cadillac organization that can take the stink off any other uniform in the league. Also all that weight room work by Carr and Thomas, I am not sure what any of it accomplished. The football weighs 15 ounces. Work on watching tape instead.

SASaintsfan · 09-10-2023, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The whole 'Raiders stink' thing needs to be questioned. Today the Raiders beat a team of similar caliber to the Titans by 1 point with a decent but unspectacular performance by their QB. They played just about the same game as us. Carr played similar to his level of play with the Raiders. Edwards who we took the Raider stink off of didnt make the team. Moreau who we took the Raiders stink off of did not have a catch, not sure if he played. The Raiders took the Patriots and 49ers stink off Jakobi Meyers and Jimmy Garappalo and are winning their division. If we want to be dominant we need to look hard at our mistakes and correct them, not just take for granite we are some tiffany cadillac organization that can take the stink off any other uniform in the league. Also all that weight room work by Carr and Thomas, I am not sure what any of it accomplished. The football weighs 15 ounces. Work on watching tape instead.

Truly don’t understand why you’re here. You’re a bitter hater. Just go away.

Rugby Saint II · 09-10-2023, 07:29 PM

Well, aside from his his bad showing I'm exited about most of the feedback about Penning's season debut. I still feel like we got great film that with the coaches will break down at every level and then they can focus and concentrate on coaching up Penning's weaknesses/techniques early . I'm glad that we didn't pull him early on for Hurst. That big boy has to set hips hips lower to get proper leverage and work on sliding rather than anchoring and committing early to the DE.

It's just our first regular season game. 1-0 baby!

BakoSaint · 09-10-2023, 09:01 PM

We can’t all be rosy optimists. I want us to have a better season than last year. Last year we opened with a messy 1 point comeback victory over the Falcons who were coming off a 7-10 2021 season and also finished 7-10 in 2022. Today we opened with a messy 1 point comeback victory over the Titans who were coming off a 7-10 2022 season. Winning is better than losing but I didn’t want to win messy against a team that is not a good team. At least last year the messy opener was a road win. The optimists can pop their champagne. I will wait until we are on a better track than last year. Maybe in a few games we will figure out the oline problems and Carr will click better with his receivers. But that ain’t now. Right now we are no better than 2022. We played an exact repeat of our 2022 opener and I am sorry it that doesnt meet my expectations.

cmike · 09-10-2023, 10:13 PM

Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery.

BakoSaint · 09-10-2023, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery.

Same injury as Penning, Thomas, and Harty in 2022 and CGJ at the end of 2021. We either need to find players without toes or get a field without turf. I dont know how much it would cost to roll in some sod, but losing 2 of our last 3 1st round picks and our top paid receiver seems more costly.

K Major · 09-11-2023, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery.

He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes).

Saints front office/scouting can’t really be surprised either. I mean he’s had injuries as far back as 9th grade football. Not a guy I would have touched in the 1st rd.

Good luck to Payton on his surgery/recovery but you can’t count on his health.

Elevate Niko Lalos from p/s. Foskey isn’t ready.

dizzle88 · 09-11-2023, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes).

Saints front office/scouting can’t really be surprised either. I mean he’s had injuries as far back as 9th grade football. Not a guy I would have touched in the 1st rd.

Good luck to Payton on his surgery/recovery but you can’t count on his health.

They certainly went into the draft with a view that they'd ignore injury history, constantly.

Honestly though, Granderson looks miles better than Davenport or Turner anyway.

K Major · 09-11-2023, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

They certainly went into the draft with a view that they'd ignore injury history, constantly.

Honestly though, Granderson looks miles better than Davenport or Turner anyway.

And Diz, Jeff Duncan reported the same thing most of training camp and I thought he was crazy.

Yeah, Granderson looks damn good.

Sainters7 · 09-11-2023, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes).

He certainly started that way when they drafted him, but I can't even give him that much credit. At least Davenport flashed at times, Turner never seems to. Davenport especially hurt because it cost 2 first round picks, but overall Turner seems to be even worse of a pick.

Obviously Sean Payton had some outstanding drafts here, but his final 1st round pick as Saints HC was dreadful. He went way off the board with it too, which makes it even worse.

09-10-2023, 07:02 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,778	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans The whole 'Raiders stink' thing needs to be questioned. Today the Raiders beat a team of similar caliber to the Titans by 1 point with a decent but unspectacular performance by their QB. They played just about the same game as us. Carr played similar to his level of play with the Raiders. Edwards who we took the Raider stink off of didnt make the team. Moreau who we took the Raiders stink off of did not have a catch, not sure if he played. The Raiders took the Patriots and 49ers stink off Jakobi Meyers and Jimmy Garappalo and are winning their division. If we want to be dominant we need to look hard at our mistakes and correct them, not just take for granite we are some tiffany cadillac organization that can take the stink off any other uniform in the league. Also all that weight room work by Carr and Thomas, I am not sure what any of it accomplished. The football weighs 15 ounces. Work on watching tape instead.
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09-10-2023, 08:34 PM	#2
SASaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 138	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by BakoSaint The whole 'Raiders stink' thing needs to be questioned. Today the Raiders beat a team of similar caliber to the Titans by 1 point with a decent but unspectacular performance by their QB. They played just about the same game as us. Carr played similar to his level of play with the Raiders. Edwards who we took the Raider stink off of didnt make the team. Moreau who we took the Raiders stink off of did not have a catch, not sure if he played. The Raiders took the Patriots and 49ers stink off Jakobi Meyers and Jimmy Garappalo and are winning their division. If we want to be dominant we need to look hard at our mistakes and correct them, not just take for granite we are some tiffany cadillac organization that can take the stink off any other uniform in the league. Also all that weight room work by Carr and Thomas, I am not sure what any of it accomplished. The football weighs 15 ounces. Work on watching tape instead. Truly don’t understand why you’re here. You’re a bitter hater. Just go away.

09-10-2023, 07:29 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,792	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Well, aside from his his bad showing I'm exited about most of the feedback about Penning's season debut. I still feel like we got great film that with the coaches will break down at every level and then they can focus and concentrate on coaching up Penning's weaknesses/techniques early . I'm glad that we didn't pull him early on for Hurst. That big boy has to set hips hips lower to get proper leverage and work on sliding rather than anchoring and committing early to the DE. It's just our first regular season game. 1-0 baby! Danno, Crusader, leilung and 2 others like this.
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09-10-2023, 09:01 PM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,778	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans We can’t all be rosy optimists. I want us to have a better season than last year. Last year we opened with a messy 1 point comeback victory over the Falcons who were coming off a 7-10 2021 season and also finished 7-10 in 2022. Today we opened with a messy 1 point comeback victory over the Titans who were coming off a 7-10 2022 season. Winning is better than losing but I didn’t want to win messy against a team that is not a good team. At least last year the messy opener was a road win. The optimists can pop their champagne. I will wait until we are on a better track than last year. Maybe in a few games we will figure out the oline problems and Carr will click better with his receivers. But that ain’t now. Right now we are no better than 2022. We played an exact repeat of our 2022 opener and I am sorry it that doesnt meet my expectations.
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09-10-2023, 10:13 PM	#5
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery.

09-10-2023, 10:32 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,778	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by cmike Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery. Same injury as Penning, Thomas, and Harty in 2022 and CGJ at the end of 2021. We either need to find players without toes or get a field without turf. I dont know how much it would cost to roll in some sod, but losing 2 of our last 3 1st round picks and our top paid receiver seems more costly. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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09-11-2023, 06:17 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,078 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by cmike Reports are Payton Turner suffered a turf toe injury. Likely needs surgery. He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes). Saints front office/scouting can’t really be surprised either. I mean he’s had injuries as far back as 9th grade football. Not a guy I would have touched in the 1st rd. Good luck to Payton on his surgery/recovery but you can’t count on his health. Elevate Niko Lalos from p/s. Foskey isn’t ready. SmashMouth and MarchingOn like this.

09-11-2023, 06:23 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by K Major He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes). Saints front office/scouting can’t really be surprised either. I mean he’s had injuries as far back as 9th grade football. Not a guy I would have touched in the 1st rd. Good luck to Payton on his surgery/recovery but you can’t count on his health. They certainly went into the draft with a view that they'd ignore injury history, constantly. Honestly though, Granderson looks miles better than Davenport or Turner anyway. leilung, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

09-11-2023, 06:27 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,078 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by dizzle88 They certainly went into the draft with a view that they'd ignore injury history, constantly. Honestly though, Granderson looks miles better than Davenport or Turner anyway. And Diz, Jeff Duncan reported the same thing most of training camp and I thought he was crazy. Yeah, Granderson looks damn good. leilung and dizzle88 like this.

09-11-2023, 12:27 PM	#10
Sainters7 Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 48	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by K Major He’s quickly becoming Davenport 2.0 (didn’t play in his opener for the Vikes). He certainly started that way when they drafted him, but I can't even give him that much credit. At least Davenport flashed at times, Turner never seems to. Davenport especially hurt because it cost 2 first round picks, but overall Turner seems to be even worse of a pick. Obviously Sean Payton had some outstanding drafts here, but his final 1st round pick as Saints HC was dreadful. He went way off the board with it too, which makes it even worse.
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