Observations from the Saints win vs Titans

stickman · 09-11-2023, 06:57 AM

Don't like the news about Turner, but otherwise happy with the result. Saints got the win.

It was Carr's, and a few others, first live game action with the team. Willing to give them all a chance to get used to the system.

Just read an article that said Penning is a disappointment so far, but the only we he gets better is to keep taking snaps. Agree with that. Let's hope he improves every game.

SmashMouth · 09-11-2023, 07:06 AM

SmashMouth · 09-11-2023, 07:10 AM

If Turner needs surgery, it must be a torn ligament.

It's kind of a bad luck injury. Agreed with you all, however, he needs to be available. Let's see what Lalos can bring in live bullets.

leilung · 09-11-2023, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If Turner needs surgery, it must be a torn ligament.

It's kind of a bad luck injury. Agreed with you all, however, he needs to be available. Let's see what Lalos can bring in live bullets.

At some point, the facilities team really needs to look at the turf they're using as the culprit in these injuries. Penning, Thomas, and Harty all had TT injuries last year. Now Turner in Game 1. If other team fields are having the same issues, you know what the problem is.

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2023, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

At some point, the facilities team really needs to look at the turf they're using as the culprit in these injuries. Penning, Thomas, and Harty all had TT injuries last year. Now Turner in Game 1. If other team fields are having the same issues, you know what the problem is.

As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive.

SmashMouth · 09-11-2023, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

FYI. They completely replaced the playing surface this off-season.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive.

As posted earlier, if surgery is required to fix it, it's a torn tendon/ligament. The shoe angle is a valid one. Also the physical make up of the player. If it were entirely the turf as the culprit, the entire team may be injured. Cameron Jordan has managed to not incur such an injury. What makes him so special?

MatthewT · 09-11-2023, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

As posted earlier, if surgery is required to fix it, it's a torn tendon/ligament. The shoe angle is a valid one. Also the physical make up of the player. If it were entirely the turf as the culprit, the entire team may be injured. Cameron Jordan has managed to not incur such an injury. What makes him so special?

From everything I've read, yes the rug itself was replaced as it is just about every year. To my understanding, they are still using the same type of slit film turf and that is what appears to be hurting the players at a higher rate.

The Dude · 09-11-2023, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive.

As you mentioned 7 minutes ago in the post right before this one?

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2023, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

As you mentioned 7 minutes ago in the post right before this one?

Yup. And in case you weren't aware, the turf was replaced with a different surface this offseason. Have a nice day, Dude!

MatthewT · 09-11-2023, 07:15 AM

I'm going to say it, the Payton Turner injury is all on the Saints. There is substantial evidence the turf in the dome is a major contributor, should have replaced it during the offseason. If cost is an issue, then Mrs. B can foot the bill for it.

09-11-2023, 06:57 AM	#1
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,819	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Don't like the news about Turner, but otherwise happy with the result. Saints got the win. It was Carr's, and a few others, first live game action with the team. Willing to give them all a chance to get used to the system. Just read an article that said Penning is a disappointment so far, but the only we he gets better is to keep taking snaps. Agree with that. Let's hope he improves every game.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Twitter

09-11-2023, 07:10 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans If Turner needs surgery, it must be a torn ligament. It's kind of a bad luck injury. Agreed with you all, however, he needs to be available. Let's see what Lalos can bring in live bullets.

09-11-2023, 07:33 AM	#4
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,434	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by SmashMouth If Turner needs surgery, it must be a torn ligament. It's kind of a bad luck injury. Agreed with you all, however, he needs to be available. Let's see what Lalos can bring in live bullets. At some point, the facilities team really needs to look at the turf they're using as the culprit in these injuries. Penning, Thomas, and Harty all had TT injuries last year. Now Turner in Game 1. If other team fields are having the same issues, you know what the problem is.

09-11-2023, 08:26 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,850	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by leilung At some point, the facilities team really needs to look at the turf they're using as the culprit in these injuries. Penning, Thomas, and Harty all had TT injuries last year. Now Turner in Game 1. If other team fields are having the same issues, you know what the problem is. As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive. Danno and SmashMouth like this.

09-11-2023, 09:35 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido FYI. They completely replaced the playing surface this off-season. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive. As posted earlier, if surgery is required to fix it, it's a torn tendon/ligament. The shoe angle is a valid one. Also the physical make up of the player. If it were entirely the turf as the culprit, the entire team may be injured. Cameron Jordan has managed to not incur such an injury. What makes him so special? MatthewT and WW_Who_Dat like this.

09-11-2023, 11:07 AM	#7
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by SmashMouth As posted earlier, if surgery is required to fix it, it's a torn tendon/ligament. The shoe angle is a valid one. Also the physical make up of the player. If it were entirely the turf as the culprit, the entire team may be injured. Cameron Jordan has managed to not incur such an injury. What makes him so special? From everything I've read, yes the rug itself was replaced as it is just about every year. To my understanding, they are still using the same type of slit film turf and that is what appears to be hurting the players at a higher rate. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-11-2023, 09:34 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As I mentioned earlier, the turf is brand new. I have also read that most of the blame on foot and toe injuries lies with the shoes being used by players today. Shoes are one of the few items that are left up to the discretion of the players. They are getting lighter and less supportive. As you mentioned 7 minutes ago in the post right before this one?
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09-12-2023, 08:01 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,850	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans Originally Posted by The Dude As you mentioned 7 minutes ago in the post right before this one? Yup. And in case you weren't aware, the turf was replaced with a different surface this offseason. Have a nice day, Dude!

09-11-2023, 07:15 AM	#10
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans I'm going to say it, the Payton Turner injury is all on the Saints. There is substantial evidence the turf in the dome is a major contributor, should have replaced it during the offseason. If cost is an issue, then Mrs. B can foot the bill for it. leilung, Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.