Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots

saintsfan1976 · 10-09-2023, 10:03 AM

Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again.

We routed a terrible Raiders team last year then promptly lost the next 4 of 5 games.

K Major · 10-09-2023, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again.

We routed a terrible Raiders team last year then promptly lost the next 4 of 5 games.

K Major · 10-09-2023, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again.

I'll provide an example.

PENALTIES & FALSE STARTS. At the PRE SNAP. 5 WEEKS into the season, it's still happening.

That's discipline. Coaching.

Sorry but Allen and Carmichael aren't off the hook with me beating a non contender on yesterday. Clean up that pre snap stuff immediately.

Beating the more difficult teams/contenders won't be this easy with those bone headed penalties.

AsylumGuido · 10-09-2023, 12:09 PM

Interestingly enough, the Saints have only three more total accepted penalties than does the 49er's after five games (36 - 33). Both teams have the same number of pre-snap penalties after the same five games with 11.

The Eagles have one more pre-snap penalty than does the Saints and the 49er's with 12 for the season. Dallas is sitting at 16 pre-snap penalties to date for 2023.

AsylumGuido · 10-09-2023, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Interestingly enough, the Saints have only three more total accepted penalties than does the 49er's after five games (36 - 33). Both teams have the same number of pre-snap penalties after the same five games with 11.

The Eagles have one more pre-snap penalty than does the Saints and the 49er's with 12 for the season. Dallas is sitting at 16 pre-snap penalties to date for 2023.

This makes sense since all of the teams that involve a lot of motion in their offenses are getting a greater number of pre-snap penalties. It comes with the territory.

AsylumGuido · 10-09-2023, 03:16 PM

Watch and listen.

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Rugby Saint II · 10-09-2023, 02:27 PM

[quote=hitta;982790]I think the only thing keeping this team from its Superbowl aspirations is bad HCing and horrible playcalling. Dennis Allen does a great job with the defense, but he's not a head coach. He's too in his head, overthinks things, plays probabilities, etc. Being a head coach requires you to have a pulse on the team, which he lacks completely. The playcalling is still horrible regardless of whether it was effective today. Carr can throw the football though, and hopefully, some people will get off his back a bit.[/QUOTE

The announcers were really ragging on the play calling yesterday. it was good enough to put up points but there were a lot more available that we left out there.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Amazing isn't it about QB Purdy? Our very own Jake Haener should be close to this guy. We won't see him for a while. Brock Purdy didn't play until late in the season for SF. It does take time to assimilate the play book.

Haener is on suspension but I imagine he's studying really hard and taking notes to talk about with the coaches when he's back.

Originally Posted by K Major

I'll provide an example.

PENALTIES & FALSE STARTS. At the PRE SNAP. 5 WEEKS into the season, it's still happening.

That's discipline. Coaching.

Sorry but Allen and Carmichael aren't off the hook with me beating a non contender on yesterday. Clean up that pre snap stuff immediately.

Beating the more difficult teams/contenders won't be this easy with those bone headed penalties.

There are no repercussions for repeating the same mistakes again and again. That's on coaches to fix. If thy can't fix it then it's time to look at other options for inspiration besides Alvin Kamara.

AsylumGuido · 10-09-2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The announcers were really ragging on the play calling yesterday. it was good enough to put up points but there were a lot more available that we left out there.

Haener is on suspension but I imagine he's studying really hard and taking notes to talk about with the coaches when he's back.

There are no repercussions for repeating the same mistakes again and again. That's on coaches to fix. If thy can't fix it then it's time to look at other options for inspiration besides Alvin Kamara.

Haener has been back. I discovered suspended players can actually return to the team facilities, but just aren't allowed to practice or attend games.

10-09-2023, 10:03 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again. We routed a terrible Raiders team last year then promptly lost the next 4 of 5 games. jnormand, leilung, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

10-09-2023, 11:31 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again. We routed a terrible Raiders team last year then promptly lost the next 4 of 5 games. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

10-09-2023, 12:01 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Not to be a wet blanket but I need to see MUCH more from the coaches before I get excited again. I'll provide an example. PENALTIES & FALSE STARTS. At the PRE SNAP. 5 WEEKS into the season, it's still happening. That's discipline. Coaching. Sorry but Allen and Carmichael aren't off the hook with me beating a non contender on yesterday. Clean up that pre snap stuff immediately. Beating the more difficult teams/contenders won't be this easy with those bone headed penalties. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

10-09-2023, 12:09 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Interestingly enough, the Saints have only three more total accepted penalties than does the 49er's after five games (36 - 33). Both teams have the same number of pre-snap penalties after the same five games with 11. The Eagles have one more pre-snap penalty than does the Saints and the 49er's with 12 for the season. Dallas is sitting at 16 pre-snap penalties to date for 2023.

10-09-2023, 03:12 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Interestingly enough, the Saints have only three more total accepted penalties than does the 49er's after five games (36 - 33). Both teams have the same number of pre-snap penalties after the same five games with 11. The Eagles have one more pre-snap penalty than does the Saints and the 49er's with 12 for the season. Dallas is sitting at 16 pre-snap penalties to date for 2023. This makes sense since all of the teams that involve a lot of motion in their offenses are getting a greater number of pre-snap penalties. It comes with the territory. Twitter

10-09-2023, 03:16 PM	#6
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10-09-2023, 04:10 PM	#8
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10-09-2023, 02:27 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,179	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots [quote=hitta;982790]I think the only thing keeping this team from its Superbowl aspirations is bad HCing and horrible playcalling. Dennis Allen does a great job with the defense, but he's not a head coach. He's too in his head, overthinks things, plays probabilities, etc. Being a head coach requires you to have a pulse on the team, which he lacks completely. The playcalling is still horrible regardless of whether it was effective today. Carr can throw the football though, and hopefully, some people will get off his back a bit.[/QUOTE The announcers were really ragging on the play calling yesterday. it was good enough to put up points but there were a lot more available that we left out there. Originally Posted by SmashMouth Amazing isn't it about QB Purdy? Our very own Jake Haener should be close to this guy. We won't see him for a while. Brock Purdy didn't play until late in the season for SF. It does take time to assimilate the play book. Haener is on suspension but I imagine he's studying really hard and taking notes to talk about with the coaches when he's back. Originally Posted by K Major I'll provide an example. PENALTIES & FALSE STARTS. At the PRE SNAP. 5 WEEKS into the season, it's still happening. That's discipline. Coaching. Sorry but Allen and Carmichael aren't off the hook with me beating a non contender on yesterday. Clean up that pre snap stuff immediately. Beating the more difficult teams/contenders won't be this easy with those bone headed penalties. There are no repercussions for repeating the same mistakes again and again. That's on coaches to fix. If thy can't fix it then it's time to look at other options for inspiration besides Alvin Kamara. Danno, Sinner and Boston Saint like this.

10-09-2023, 03:03 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The announcers were really ragging on the play calling yesterday. it was good enough to put up points but there were a lot more available that we left out there. Haener is on suspension but I imagine he's studying really hard and taking notes to talk about with the coaches when he's back. There are no repercussions for repeating the same mistakes again and again. That's on coaches to fix. If thy can't fix it then it's time to look at other options for inspiration besides Alvin Kamara. Haener has been back. I discovered suspended players can actually return to the team facilities, but just aren't allowed to practice or attend games. Rugby Saint II likes this.