Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots

10-10-2023, 12:59 PM

Is it safe to be optimistic again?

TheOak · 10-10-2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Is it safe to be optimistic again?

Positively

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-10-2023, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That is an interesting question, I had to rationalize my answer with my actions and not my feelings.

On the surface, I did not draft MT this year in fantasy because he has no consistency. So for same reasons I find "Power Rankings" before the start of a season absurd and useless, performance last year doesn't define next year.

Thinking abut it deeper, the MT question is not just about MT is it? QB accuracy and play calling weigh heavily into that equation and what we have doesn't move the needle into a favorable direction for me.

You sort of missed my point. To Mapcow, MT13 is all about feelings, and nothing about production. Even if now he was consistent and productive, because of the feelings about the player, he would still be dismissed by some. Nothing else matters.

As for the Saints as a whole, it's all about consistency now. They have the talent. They certainly have the scheme on defense. Carmichael seems to be trying. Injuries haven't been terrible yet. But there just can't be 4th quarters to the Packers, or entire games for the offense to the Bucs. Everyone needs to do their job for 4 quarters each and every game for the team to move where they need to go.

When Brees was here, you could pretty much go into any game knowing the offense was going to put up 20 or more points before the game started. But now, each game offensively is currently a Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. The Saints have to decide offensively if they are going to be consistently explosive or find a way to consistently grind each drive. But the latter cannot have penalties, incompletes, or unproductive runs to be effective. And right now we just haven't seen either on any consistent basis.

It's a thing of beauty when everyone rows together, to the tune of a 34-0 shellacking of the Patriots. But the Saints are not currently the 49ers, which are putting up 35+ points each and every week as an unstoppable juggernaut. Consistency is the difference between the two.

SFIAH

papz · 10-10-2023, 01:26 PM

So in short, Michael Thomas is his ex-wife and they no kids together.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Map I wouldn't even waste my time. Year after year he gets into middle school conversations with members on this board.

A pattern of repeated behavior. Narcissistic personality disorder.

George (Saintfan) warned us.

You and "George" need to find a quiet place and curl up together.

The dude was ruining every thread on the forum with his childish repeated behavior and he took his ball and went home when told to stop by the mods. The dude had his own major obsessive issues.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2023, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Is it safe to be optimistic again?

Never stopped, Rugs.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2023, 02:00 PM

iceshack149 · 10-10-2023, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/icfexlf_9ac

Sean Payton has to be a miserable man.

K Major · 10-10-2023, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You and "George" need to find a quiet place and curl up together. The dude was ruining every thread on the forum with his childish repeated behavior and he took his ball and went home when told to stop by the mods. The dude had his own major obsessive issues.

AG,

You can go F*** yourself.

You don’t tell anyone when or where to go.

You play with kids, not me.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2023, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

AG,

You can go F*** yourself.

You don’t tell anyone when or where to go.

You play with kids, not me.

Then you need to keep your comments to yourself. You choose to talk about me, friend, and I'll sure tell you where you can go. You and your buddy, George.

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10-10-2023, 01:09 PM	#82
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10-10-2023, 01:22 PM	#83
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by TheOak That is an interesting question, I had to rationalize my answer with my actions and not my feelings. On the surface, I did not draft MT this year in fantasy because he has no consistency. So for same reasons I find "Power Rankings" before the start of a season absurd and useless, performance last year doesn't define next year. Thinking abut it deeper, the MT question is not just about MT is it? QB accuracy and play calling weigh heavily into that equation and what we have doesn't move the needle into a favorable direction for me. You sort of missed my point. To Mapcow, MT13 is all about feelings, and nothing about production. Even if now he was consistent and productive, because of the feelings about the player, he would still be dismissed by some. Nothing else matters. As for the Saints as a whole, it's all about consistency now. They have the talent. They certainly have the scheme on defense. Carmichael seems to be trying. Injuries haven't been terrible yet. But there just can't be 4th quarters to the Packers, or entire games for the offense to the Bucs. Everyone needs to do their job for 4 quarters each and every game for the team to move where they need to go. When Brees was here, you could pretty much go into any game knowing the offense was going to put up 20 or more points before the game started. But now, each game offensively is currently a Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. The Saints have to decide offensively if they are going to be consistently explosive or find a way to consistently grind each drive. But the latter cannot have penalties, incompletes, or unproductive runs to be effective. And right now we just haven't seen either on any consistent basis. It's a thing of beauty when everyone rows together, to the tune of a 34-0 shellacking of the Patriots. But the Saints are not currently the 49ers, which are putting up 35+ points each and every week as an unstoppable juggernaut. Consistency is the difference between the two. SFIAH AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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10-10-2023, 01:32 PM	#85
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,207	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by K Major Map I wouldn't even waste my time. Year after year he gets into middle school conversations with members on this board. A pattern of repeated behavior. Narcissistic personality disorder. George (Saintfan) warned us. You and "George" need to find a quiet place and curl up together. The dude was ruining every thread on the forum with his childish repeated behavior and he took his ball and went home when told to stop by the mods. The dude had his own major obsessive issues.

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10-10-2023, 04:17 PM	#89
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You and "George" need to find a quiet place and curl up together. The dude was ruining every thread on the forum with his childish repeated behavior and he took his ball and went home when told to stop by the mods. The dude had his own major obsessive issues. AG, You can go F*** yourself. You don’t tell anyone when or where to go. You play with kids, not me.

10-10-2023, 04:25 PM	#90
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,207	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Patriots Originally Posted by K Major AG, You can go F*** yourself. You don’t tell anyone when or where to go. You play with kids, not me. Then you need to keep your comments to yourself. You choose to talk about me, friend, and I'll sure tell you where you can go. You and your buddy, George.