Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans

10-16-2023, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

All of what you suggest, is assuming that we have solid ownership, management and coaching. We don’t.

Nope, that alone will not fix everything. Coaching staff and front office isn't getting it done for sure. If it doesn't get better we will see what type of ownership the Saints have, meaning will she have the guts to fire the entire front office and coaching staff or does she leave it alone.

dizzle88 · 10-16-2023, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I know this is going to be a very unpopular statement, but it may be time to seriously consider putting Olave on the trading block. I know this is a very talented number 1 type of receiver, but we are now seeing a pattern of unacceptable behavior over the past few weeks. These type of issues normally do not improve over time.

Honestly, Shaheed is better than him anyway and MT never gives up.

Olave's body language and demeanor is frustrating to watch.

We know you don't like losing Chris, but imagine being a fan, who has no power to change the outcome, still using what's left of their measly paycheck, to watch you give 40% effort every play.

AT Perry is waiting on the sideline every game, see if he has anything!

Why we've signed all these TE's, including the 6'7 Jimmy Graham and he never gets used in the redzone is peak ineptitude.

Sinner · 10-16-2023, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Nope, that alone will not fix everything. Coaching staff and front office isn't getting it done for sure. If it doesn't get better we will see what type of ownership the Saints have, meaning will she have the guts to fire the entire front office and coaching staff or does she leave it alone.

She leaves it alone. Watch. We’re in trouble.

Rugby Saint II · 10-16-2023, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

She leaves it alone. Watch. We’re in trouble.

I hope that Gayle Benson sits down with Mickey Loomis and has a heartfelt discussion on how to fix the team. If not.....rinse and repeat!

K Major · 10-16-2023, 01:57 PM

Quick observation on “over reaction” Monday 🫣 ….

As of today, Carolina Panthers HC Frank Reich ceding play calling duties to
OC Thomas Brown effective immediately.

He identified a problem (offense is lethargic) & made a change to hopefully improve next week.

Why is that so hard (demote/fire Pete) for Dennis Allen to understand?

Better stop the bleeding NOW before it’s too late.

Mr.Riaton · 10-16-2023, 02:10 PM

The fact that nothing has been done at this point is downright astounding. I’m not even expecting a full on all around change, just something. Give Curry a go at it. If there are players not pulling their weight then bench em and give the hungry backups a shot. If Carr is struggling try Winston again, or hell, try the rookie out with the starters to see what he has….something, anything is better than this stale ass sh*t.
Personally I’d start with demoting PC and giving it over to R Curry and benching any player who is not pulling their weight in any phase of the game.

Like a few have said…way too much talent on this offense to have this result

Danno · 10-16-2023, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

Here it is. Petey is a cuck.

https://twitter.com/1RealNative/stat...73692025090319

Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes.

That would explain Allen's comment about execution.

BakoSaint · 10-16-2023, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes.

That would explain Allen's comment about execution.

Maybe the route PC called on 3 and 1 at our 30 yard line was for all the receivers to run go routes straight for the endzone and not even turn and look for the ball until they get there. Maybe one of the receivers 'ran the wrong route' by running to the first down marker and then turning around and looking to get open in space.

papz · 10-16-2023, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes.

That would explain Allen's comment about execution.

This is what I thought I saw as well. It did look like the receiver ran the wrong route and I thought that was pretty evident when it happened.

SmashMouth · 10-16-2023, 06:39 PM

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10-16-2023, 01:31 PM	#51
Threaded by MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Sinner All of what you suggest, is assuming that we have solid ownership, management and coaching. We don’t. Nope, that alone will not fix everything. Coaching staff and front office isn't getting it done for sure. If it doesn't get better we will see what type of ownership the Saints have, meaning will she have the guts to fire the entire front office and coaching staff or does she leave it alone.
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10-16-2023, 01:34 PM	#52
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by MatthewT I know this is going to be a very unpopular statement, but it may be time to seriously consider putting Olave on the trading block. I know this is a very talented number 1 type of receiver, but we are now seeing a pattern of unacceptable behavior over the past few weeks. These type of issues normally do not improve over time. Honestly, Shaheed is better than him anyway and MT never gives up. Olave's body language and demeanor is frustrating to watch. We know you don't like losing Chris, but imagine being a fan, who has no power to change the outcome, still using what's left of their measly paycheck, to watch you give 40% effort every play. AT Perry is waiting on the sideline every game, see if he has anything! Why we've signed all these TE's, including the 6'7 Jimmy Graham and he never gets used in the redzone is peak ineptitude. MatthewT likes this.

10-16-2023, 01:35 PM	#53
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by MatthewT Nope, that alone will not fix everything. Coaching staff and front office isn't getting it done for sure. If it doesn't get better we will see what type of ownership the Saints have, meaning will she have the guts to fire the entire front office and coaching staff or does she leave it alone. She leaves it alone. Watch. We’re in trouble. MatthewT and K Major like this.
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10-16-2023, 01:49 PM	#54
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by Sinner She leaves it alone. Watch. We’re in trouble. I hope that Gayle Benson sits down with Mickey Loomis and has a heartfelt discussion on how to fix the team. If not.....rinse and repeat!

10-16-2023, 01:57 PM	#55
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Quick observation on “over reaction” Monday 🫣 …. As of today, Carolina Panthers HC Frank Reich ceding play calling duties to OC Thomas Brown effective immediately. He identified a problem (offense is lethargic) & made a change to hopefully improve next week. Why is that so hard (demote/fire Pete) for Dennis Allen to understand? Better stop the bleeding NOW before it’s too late. MatthewT and dizzle88 like this.

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10-16-2023, 02:10 PM	#56
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans The fact that nothing has been done at this point is downright astounding. I’m not even expecting a full on all around change, just something. Give Curry a go at it. If there are players not pulling their weight then bench em and give the hungry backups a shot. If Carr is struggling try Winston again, or hell, try the rookie out with the starters to see what he has….something, anything is better than this stale ass sh*t. Personally I’d start with demoting PC and giving it over to R Curry and benching any player who is not pulling their weight in any phase of the game. Like a few have said…way too much talent on this offense to have this result MatthewT and dizzle88 like this.

10-16-2023, 03:04 PM	#57
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by 4everSaint Here it is. Petey is a cuck. https://twitter.com/1RealNative/stat...73692025090319 Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes. That would explain Allen's comment about execution. papz likes this.

10-16-2023, 03:52 PM	#58
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by Danno Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes. That would explain Allen's comment about execution. Maybe the route PC called on 3 and 1 at our 30 yard line was for all the receivers to run go routes straight for the endzone and not even turn and look for the ball until they get there. Maybe one of the receivers 'ran the wrong route' by running to the first down marker and then turning around and looking to get open in space.
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10-16-2023, 04:24 PM	#59
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Texans Originally Posted by Danno Grain of salt... I read that he was yelling at Pete about receivers running the wrong routes. That would explain Allen's comment about execution. This is what I thought I saw as well. It did look like the receiver ran the wrong route and I thought that was pretty evident when it happened. Danno likes this.