Saints at Colts Gameday Thread

Rugby Saint II · 10-29-2023, 01:53 PM

Why do we throw short of the first down marker on third and long?

dizzle88 · 10-29-2023, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Why do we throw short of the first down marker on third and long?

Pete reverting to his old ways again.

Kamara option route 5 yards short of line to gain

BakoSaint · 10-29-2023, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Pete reverting to his old ways again.

Kamara option route 5 yards short of line to gain

It's easy to criticize Pete Carmichael where we sit in front of computers with access to internet forums with fan suggestions on how to improve the offense, but to be fair Pete is an aging man in a noisy stadium having to remember those same fan suggestions from reading them earlier in the week, sometimes its hard to do that for 4 quarters and it's easier to just treat the playbook more like pin the tail on the donkey. There is a lot of pressure on Pete Carmichael not to call Dennis Sean and not to call Derek Drew, and asking him to also remember down and distance and call appropriate plays may be too much. Sometimes Pete needs to focus on the basics and just pick 3 plays and label them 1, 2, and 3 for the downs, but then he has to remember whether those are supposed to be for downs or quarters, and why there is no play with a 4 written on it, so he writes 4 next to a play where all the receivers run go routes just to be sure.

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Why do we throw short of the first down marker on third and long?

Because when other teams do it to us they get a first down so we think we can do the same thing.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,459	Re: Saints at Colts Gameday Thread Originally Posted by dizzle88 Pete reverting to his old ways again. Kamara option route 5 yards short of line to gain It's easy to criticize Pete Carmichael where we sit in front of computers with access to internet forums with fan suggestions on how to improve the offense, but to be fair Pete is an aging man in a noisy stadium having to remember those same fan suggestions from reading them earlier in the week, sometimes its hard to do that for 4 quarters and it's easier to just treat the playbook more like pin the tail on the donkey. There is a lot of pressure on Pete Carmichael not to call Dennis Sean and not to call Derek Drew, and asking him to also remember down and distance and call appropriate plays may be too much. Sometimes Pete needs to focus on the basics and just pick 3 plays and label them 1, 2, and 3 for the downs, but then he has to remember whether those are supposed to be for downs or quarters, and why there is no play with a 4 written on it, so he writes 4 next to a play where all the receivers run go routes just to be sure.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,238	Re: Saints at Colts Gameday Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Why do we throw short of the first down marker on third and long? Because when other teams do it to us they get a first down so we think we can do the same thing. Rugby Saint II likes this.