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11-12-2023, 06:33 PM | #21 |
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)
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11-12-2023, 06:40 PM | #22 |
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)
I know it's cliche to say that our problems start at the top with Benson/Loomis, but now I am 100% feeling it to the core of my being. There are some parallels between us and the Vikings, in that it's becoming more obvious to see the moves of a winning organization versus one that is in substantial decline.
Loomis is ALWAYS afraid to make a tough decision, unless that decision is a silly trade-up in the draft or signing a bad dead-money-oriented contract to a veteran. Loomis will be probably be flexing during the bye week about how awesome the move to trade up for Olave was. Guess what, sweetie? Justin Jefferson and Addison are probably both better than Olave right now and going forward, and the Vikings drafted them both straight up. Loomis has created a culture where being right and holding onto your hubris is more important than winning games. We are more than happy to have a collection of albatrosses hanging around our neck rather than cut bait and move on when the time is right. Tyrann was always an overachiever and I know we all love him, but he just can't cut it anymore. We are basically playing 10 on 11 out there. The bone-head face mask was the final straw for me. We need a younger player with more range in there. Let's quit worrying about the fans being bummed. Because let's face it the Vikings stadium is getting louder by the week and sound like what the Superdome used to. Penning is a bust and we should have cut him weeks ago. Quit trying to save face and do something useful with the roster spot. His ship has sailed. Any other capable front office including the Vikings would've already made the move by now. You look at an org like the Vikings. They moved on from Dalvin Cook. Also Xavier Rhodes a few years back. They fired a coach in Mike Zimmer who was a far better coach than Dennis Allen will ever be and moved on to a new young coach when the team was starting to stagnate. What was the last truly tough man-up decision the Saints brass have made? I might have to go all the way back to cutting Adrian Peterson when Kamara was emerging. Pretty sad, and it also shows how Payton helped save us from some of Loomis' blind spots. We have a coach who is a glorified associate youth pastor, yet we'll hang onto him because Loomis is so glad he's sitting at .500 doing nominally better than Allen's Raiders tenure. He's lost the locker room and that's why the team is sleepwalking during the first half of football games. We also have a low-tier offensive assistant cosplaying as an offensive coordinator, and we all know how that's working out. And then there's the QB situation: - Carr isn't smart or talented enough to execute the high-percentage ball-control offense Brees or others have. Period. - Winston has the arm talent and could prosper in a more wide-open offensive system, but our mental midget of an offensive coordinator makes that endeavor impossible. - Hill is the X-Factor and it would be risky, but it might be the one way out of this mess as he has been on a roll this season. But as we know by now neither Loomis or Allen would be able to find their balls and make that kind of a change. End rant and efff this bye week. |
11-12-2023, 07:19 PM | #23 |
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It’s cliche because it’s true. Well written rant. On point.
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11-12-2023, 07:24 PM | #24 |
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I’ve been wanting Loomis gone for years but we don’t have the nuts to move on from him. So what needs to be done is “promote” him, hire a real GM, and don’t let someone else snatch up Ben Johnson before we do.
Now with that said, thankfully Arthur Smith is a horrible coach and the Falcons suck too. I didn’t have any expectations coming into the game so I’m not even mad about losing. Just hoping for the best. Get to the playoffs and hopefully we can pull a monkey out our ass somehow. |
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11-12-2023, 07:28 PM | #25 |
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11-12-2023, 10:04 PM | #26 |
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We have the most vanilla offense in the history of football based on the time period it's being used in.
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11-12-2023, 10:17 PM | #27 |
Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)
Originally Posted by papz
Jim Ireland?
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11-12-2023, 10:31 PM | #28 |
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11-13-2023, 06:40 AM | #29 |
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Same ol', Same ol'...
Playing from behind early. DA stubbornly sticking with 4 man pressure. Failing to spy a mobile QB and keep him honest. Getting the D off the field on 3rd Down. Getting our QB's to know it's OK to move the chains on 3rd down. PC once again falling back on highly predictable vanilla playcalling. (Suggest he get his ass off the sideline and in the booth because he's obviously not seeing the defenses to exploit weaknesses!) Boom or Bust passing. Deep routes or Check downs but zero crossing patterns... again. Regressing once again to fail to use Taysom situationally. Where in the Blue HELL is Jimmy Graham? Ever hear a different song, but it's the same old tune? That's what 5-5 in 2023 sounds like in the Big Easy. |
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11-13-2023, 07:38 AM | #30 |
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