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OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/3yzv5MaRjRU Bobby cracks me up, when he mentioned "That damn horn, that damn Viking horn", I dang near spit my coffee out. Later on he mentions what sounded like Stinky Pete, think he really said "Sneaky ...

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Old 11-13-2023, 08:23 AM   #31
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

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Bobby cracks me up, when he mentioned "That damn horn, that damn Viking horn", I dang near spit my coffee out. Later on he mentions what sounded like Stinky Pete, think he really said "Sneaky Pete or whoever is calling the plays". Either way, fitting... HAHA

I agree with his take that this team looks very slow. It really looks like father time may have caught up to both Cam Jordan and Honey Badger.
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:56 AM   #32
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

I'm still amazed we are at the top of the NFC South!

Not for much longer if we carry on playing like that!

Luckily, the other teams in our division are awful too! Lol!
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Old 11-13-2023, 09:49 AM   #33
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I stopped paying attention to that game before half time for my own sanity. And I still have a hangover. It was downright pathetic. I see Jameis went in and the Saints mounted a valiant comeback to get everyone’s hopes up just to piss it all away again.

Ugh. I know the days are long gone but I sure do miss Drew Brees and a competitive and innovative coaching staff.
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Based on what I see on defense last several weeks vs mobile QBs (Minshew, Stroud, Trevor L & Dobbs, I saw the need for another pass rusher before the trade deadline.

The lack of consistent pass rush is hurting this team. Cam is well past his prime and Granderson needs more help.

Saints have ranked last or near the bottom (pass rush win rate) for 2 seasons now. This is one of the small reasons why back up QBs and rookies (Bagent, Dobbs) have moved the chains on us in critical moments.

I listen to NFL experts and a few here keep referring to this defense is "elite" but "elite" defenses don't wait until 2nd half of every game.

Against .500 teams, you don't have the luxury of digging yourself out of a large deficit and expect the offense to pick you up in the 3rd/4th quarters. Especially when you have an inept OC calling plays.

Coaching & decision making is just bad in New Orleans.
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Old 11-13-2023, 02:22 PM   #35
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

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Hard to do... it is what it is, and the Saints are what they are, sadly .
A Dennis Allen poorly coached team? Yeah, it's sad.

Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
We are consistent. Consistently mediocre.
Nailed it!
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Based on what I see on defense last several weeks vs mobile QBs (Minshew, Stroud, Trevor L & Dobbs, I saw the need for another pass rusher before the trade deadline.
That's like bluffing with a pair of twos. It ain't gonna' work.

The lack of consistent pass rush is hurting this team. Cam is well past his prime and Granderson needs more help.

Maybe when Payton Turner returns he'll be able to give us a spark.

I'm not kidding. I'm going through a mini-depression now that I realize we may be watching this **** show for another year and a half.. I was truly all in this year. Too bad the coaching staff wasn't.

Saints have ranked last or near the bottom (pass rush win rate) for 2 seasons now. This is one of the small reasons why back up QBs and rookies (Bagent, Dobbs) have moved the chains on us in critical moments.

I listen to NFL experts and a few here keep referring to this defense is "elite" but "elite" defenses don't wait until 2nd half of every game.

Against .500 teams, you don't have the luxury of digging yourself out of a large deficit and expect the offense to pick you up in the 3rd/4th quarters. Especially when you have an inept OC calling plays.

Coaching & decision making is just bad in New Orleans.
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Old 11-13-2023, 02:47 PM   #36
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Against a quality opponent, Taysom Hill has 1 carry. Wait, what?

Taysom Hill. A difference maker. A spark. A proven guy.

I have to wonder what Pete Carmichael is doing at film study & during practice. And you wonder why this team is struggling offensively.
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I kept wondering why AT Perry was out there when Taysom, Olave, Sheed, Thomas, and Jimmy were on the sideline.

Edit: OK. Jimmy was a healthy scratch....but still, I hope you get my point. Allen pulls playmakers hoping to confuse the defense. No wonder we have a hard time finding continuity.
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Old 11-13-2023, 06:51 PM   #38
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

Gentlemen... The sky is not falling. lol
We're still in it.
We're talented.

Trouble is penalties. O line woes - though much better than earlier in the season.
Team CAPTAINS and teammates need to hold EACH OTHER accountable.
without penalties its a different game.

That being said....
Hill didn't get ONE QB play after Winston came in. Freaking STUPID

CAN WE FINALLY BE DONE WITH WINSTON?????
I would have rather seen the rookie.

Coaches made some errors sure. My 2cents, MUCH of this should fall on the Players though. ALSO, maybe I'm the last guy standing but lets give them the rest of the year before we start demanding firings. I wasn't sure about Dennis Allen but he hasn't overly disapointed. As far as BLAMING play calling... a lot of good drives have ended in penalties or sacks (some of which can be blamed on Carr holding the ball too long).

IF the TEAM MATES can hold together and the Coaches don't let the OUTSIDE NOISE mess with them - I'm optimistic we do very well the rest of the year with Carr or Hill as QB and barring any major injuries. Maybe this is die hard. Guess we'll see.
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Old 11-13-2023, 06:52 PM   #39
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don't listen to the talking heads. they thrive on CONTROVERSY. That's what they SPEW.
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Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

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don't listen to the talking heads. they thrive on CONTROVERSY. That's what they SPEW.
I haven’t listened to any talking heads.

I wish I had your optimism bro. But I just haven’t seen anything to give me any confidence in this team getting anywhere close to its potential.

That said, I feel like this same team would be much better with another head coach and OC.
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