OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

Sinner · 11-13-2023, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I haven’t listened to any talking heads.

I wish I had your optimism bro. But I just haven’t seen anything to give me any confidence in this team getting anywhere close to its potential.

That said, I feel like this same team would be much better with another head coach and OC.

We need a new Head Coach.

Danno · 11-13-2023, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I haven’t listened to any talking heads.

I wish I had your optimism bro. But I just haven’t seen anything to give me any confidence in this team getting anywhere close to its potential.

That said, I feel like this same team would be much better with another head coach and OC.

I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton?

Sinner · 11-13-2023, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton?

Nothing, because Dennis Allen AINT goin nowhere.

TheOak · 11-14-2023, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton?

I wonder what Tom would do were he alive, or Gayle if she watched the games.

K Major · 11-14-2023, 09:39 AM

Some hate to hear the truth from Matt Moscona.
And I agree on his points regarding Carr & the Saints defense. It's average at best.

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AsylumGuido · 11-14-2023, 05:15 PM

I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half.

1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards
2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards
3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain
4th & 1 we are forced to punt

What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible.

neugey · 11-14-2023, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half.

1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards
2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards
3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain
4th & 1 we are forced to punt

What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible.

Carmichael makes everything harder than it really is. If this team had any sense he'd be fired during the bye and you'd see him ringing the Salvation Army bell at Wal Mart in a few weeks. And he'd probably turn that into a debacle too.

dizzle88 · 11-14-2023, 05:55 PM

Notice how the Bills aren't scared to make a coaching change when they see an issue with their offense.

Dennis Allen is happy with the team being mediocre so he can just continue saying "we need to be better"

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2023, 10:12 AM

This here ...

Sinner · 11-15-2023, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half.

1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards
2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards
3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain
4th & 1 we are forced to punt

What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible.

See, the problem is that you’re talking to Fans, when you should be talking to Ownership, by cancelling your subscription to season tickets until this broken mess is fixed.

11-13-2023, 08:00 PM	#41
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by jnormand I haven’t listened to any talking heads. I wish I had your optimism bro. But I just haven’t seen anything to give me any confidence in this team getting anywhere close to its potential. That said, I feel like this same team would be much better with another head coach and OC. We need a new Head Coach.
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11-13-2023, 08:04 PM	#42
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by jnormand I haven’t listened to any talking heads. I wish I had your optimism bro. But I just haven’t seen anything to give me any confidence in this team getting anywhere close to its potential. That said, I feel like this same team would be much better with another head coach and OC. I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton? jnormand likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by Danno I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton? Nothing, because Dennis Allen AINT goin nowhere. K Major likes this.
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11-14-2023, 02:09 AM	#44
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by Danno I wonder what Andy Reid could do with this team? Or even Payton? I wonder what Tom would do were he alive, or Gayle if she watched the games. Sinner and K Major like this.

11-14-2023, 05:15 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half. 1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards 2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards 3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain 4th & 1 we are forced to punt What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible. rezburna likes this.
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11-14-2023, 05:35 PM	#47
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half. 1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards 2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards 3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain 4th & 1 we are forced to punt What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible. Carmichael makes everything harder than it really is. If this team had any sense he'd be fired during the bye and you'd see him ringing the Salvation Army bell at Wal Mart in a few weeks. And he'd probably turn that into a debacle too. K Major likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Notice how the Bills aren't scared to make a coaching change when they see an issue with their offense. Dennis Allen is happy with the team being mediocre so he can just continue saying "we need to be better" neugey and Sinner like this.

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11-15-2023, 10:24 AM	#50
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I see Carmichael's biggest issue is trying too hard the diversify the offense thinking he has to use all of his players, especially at RB. Perhaps it's his script. A perfect example was our first possession of the 2nd half. 1st & 10 Kamara off left tackle for 7 yards 2nd & 3 Jamaal Williams off right guard for 2 yards 3rd & 1 Jamaal Williams (again) up the middle for no gain 4th & 1 we are forced to punt What the hell? Feed the ball to Kamara as long as he's moving it. We just came out of the halftime and Kamara is fresh. What's the point of bringing in Jamaal at that point? Carmichael far too often abandons what is working to stick to some sort of script at the beginning of games and the second half. I can see scripting until you find a successful tendency at the beginning of games, but use what you learn. Be flexible. See, the problem is that you’re talking to Fans, when you should be talking to Ownership, by cancelling your subscription to season tickets until this broken mess is fixed.
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