Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left

AsylumGuido · 12-12-2023, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

A playoff birth extends Dennis Allen's tenure, and unless you believe that he is the path to a future Super Bowl, that is a very bad thing.

I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl.

In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love.

I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never.

I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them.

mapcow · 12-12-2023, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl.

In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love.

I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never.

I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them.

excuse me while i go puke.

iceshack149 · 12-13-2023, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl.

In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love.

I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never.

I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them.

This team is awesome.
Keep doing what you're doing.
I'll give this franchise my money no matter what.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This team is awesome.
Keep doing what you're doing.
I'll give this franchise my money no matter what.

Nope. This team has many faults, mainly the coaching. Changes are definitely needed. And what I choose to do with my money is none of anyone else's business.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. This team has many faults, mainly the coaching. Changes are definitely needed. And what I choose to do with my money is none of anyone else's business.

Wrong. Your money is Saints Mismanagement’s business. Literally.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 12:20 PM

To honestly look at the Saints chances at this point we need to include the games remaining for the other two teams in the race.

Saints

vs Giants
@ Rams
@ Bucs
vs Falcons

Bucs

@ Packers
vs Jags
vs Saints
@ Panthers

Falcons

@ Panthers
vs Colts
@ Bears
@ Saints

I don't see either TB or Atlanta making it through the final four games without at least one loss. Two losses each appears to be very possible.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

To honestly look at the Saints chances at this point we need to include the games remaining for the other two teams in the race.

Saints

vs Giants
@ Rams
@ Bucs
vs Falcons

Bucs

@ Packers
vs Jags
vs Saints
@ Panthers

Falcons

@ Panthers
vs Colts
@ Bears
@ Saints

I don't see either TB or Atlanta making it through the final four games without at least one loss. Two losses each appears to be very possible.

To honestly look at the Saints’ chances at this point, with all the ridiculous hypothetical scenarios which at best, would result in the painful continuation of a sub-mediocre product being sustained, is to lose sight of the fact that the rest of us are DEMANDING that this team rebuild and restore the satisfaction to the fans who EXPECT to see a WINNING (or at least, a highly competitive) FORMULA on the field.

FOCUS.

Danno · 12-13-2023, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

To honestly look at the Saints’ chances at this point, with all the ridiculous hypothetical scenarios which at best, would result in the painful continuation of a sub-mediocre product being sustained, is to lose sight of the fact that the rest of us are DEMANDING that this team rebuild and restore the satisfaction to the fans who EXPECT to see a WINNING (or at least, a highly competitive) FORMULA on the field.

FOCUS.

I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB.

I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC.

Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes.

Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah!

Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB.

I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC.

Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes.

Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah!

Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild.

Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…

12-12-2023, 05:08 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by TheOak A playoff birth extends Dennis Allen's tenure, and unless you believe that he is the path to a future Super Bowl, that is a very bad thing. I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl. In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love. I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never. I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

12-12-2023, 05:57 PM	#2
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl. In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love. I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never. I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them. excuse me while i go puke. Sinner and K Major like this.
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12-13-2023, 10:11 AM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl. In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love. I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never. I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them. This team is awesome. Keep doing what you're doing. I'll give this franchise my money no matter what. Sinner and K Major like this.

12-13-2023, 12:09 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by iceshack149 This team is awesome. Keep doing what you're doing. I'll give this franchise my money no matter what. Nope. This team has many faults, mainly the coaching. Changes are definitely needed. And what I choose to do with my money is none of anyone else's business.

12-13-2023, 12:16 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. This team has many faults, mainly the coaching. Changes are definitely needed. And what I choose to do with my money is none of anyone else's business. Wrong. Your money is Saints Mismanagement’s business. Literally. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-13-2023, 12:20 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left To honestly look at the Saints chances at this point we need to include the games remaining for the other two teams in the race. Saints vs Giants @ Rams @ Bucs vs Falcons Bucs @ Packers vs Jags vs Saints @ Panthers Falcons @ Panthers vs Colts @ Bears @ Saints I don't see either TB or Atlanta making it through the final four games without at least one loss. Two losses each appears to be very possible.

12-13-2023, 12:32 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by AsylumGuido To honestly look at the Saints chances at this point we need to include the games remaining for the other two teams in the race. Saints vs Giants @ Rams @ Bucs vs Falcons Bucs @ Packers vs Jags vs Saints @ Panthers Falcons @ Panthers vs Colts @ Bears @ Saints I don't see either TB or Atlanta making it through the final four games without at least one loss. Two losses each appears to be very possible. To honestly look at the Saints’ chances at this point, with all the ridiculous hypothetical scenarios which at best, would result in the painful continuation of a sub-mediocre product being sustained, is to lose sight of the fact that the rest of us are DEMANDING that this team rebuild and restore the satisfaction to the fans who EXPECT to see a WINNING (or at least, a highly competitive) FORMULA on the field. FOCUS. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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12-13-2023, 03:07 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by Sinner To honestly look at the Saints’ chances at this point, with all the ridiculous hypothetical scenarios which at best, would result in the painful continuation of a sub-mediocre product being sustained, is to lose sight of the fact that the rest of us are DEMANDING that this team rebuild and restore the satisfaction to the fans who EXPECT to see a WINNING (or at least, a highly competitive) FORMULA on the field. FOCUS. I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB. I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC. Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes. Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah! Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild. iceshack149, saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.

12-13-2023, 03:31 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by Danno I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB. I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC. Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes. Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah! Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild. Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while… K Major likes this.
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