Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC

iceshack149 · 12-20-2023, 12:18 PM

Tomlin has lost the Steelers and some players aren't even trying anymore. I'm not sure that he's the guy.

K Major · 12-20-2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Tomlin has lost the Steelers and some players aren't even trying anymore. I'm not sure that he's the guy.

Kinda noticed that with their young talented receiver Pickens.

Canada was holding that offense back but they still have other issues & have already benched their backup (Trubisky) QB.

MatthewT · 12-20-2023, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job.

Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose.

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

From what I'm hearing (via NFL Radio mainly) it's the team and not Tomlin that may have inklings of moving on. That is if there is anything to it beyond the same old nearing the end of the year clickbait. I see no reason why he wouldn't want to play out his contract.

From what I've also been hearing Bill Belichick and Dan Quinn may be the most likely candidates out there.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

Speaking of "clickbait", I just saw that Florio has put your scenario out there with this article.

stickman · 12-20-2023, 01:41 PM

I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

I also just read that if Tomlin becomes available Chicago will be willing to do whatever it takes to get him. That price could be way up there. Few people have the liquid capital that Gayle Benson enjoys. Even other NFL owners.

Rugby Saint II · 12-20-2023, 03:57 PM

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Sinner · 12-20-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Youth is key here. It’s clear to see that Masters like Belichick or Tomlin have periods where everything clicks and they themselves have a fire, then it fades or passes. Unfortunately, our current excuse has neither fire or youth or any special presence at all, so these more legendary old cats might seem attractive, but we need something completely new.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!

12-20-2023, 12:18 PM	#1
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,441 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Tomlin has lost the Steelers and some players aren't even trying anymore. I'm not sure that he's the guy. B_Dub_Saint, Sinner and K Major like this.

12-20-2023, 12:23 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by iceshack149 Tomlin has lost the Steelers and some players aren't even trying anymore. I'm not sure that he's the guy. Kinda noticed that with their young talented receiver Pickens. Canada was holding that offense back but they still have other issues & have already benched their backup (Trubisky) QB. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 12:43 PM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job. Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose. I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. B_Dub_Saint and K Major like this.

12-20-2023, 01:19 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by MatthewT I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. From what I'm hearing (via NFL Radio mainly) it's the team and not Tomlin that may have inklings of moving on. That is if there is anything to it beyond the same old nearing the end of the year clickbait. I see no reason why he wouldn't want to play out his contract. From what I've also been hearing Bill Belichick and Dan Quinn may be the most likely candidates out there. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 01:31 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by MatthewT I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. Speaking of "clickbait", I just saw that Florio has put your scenario out there with this article. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 01:41 PM	#6
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,812	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid. neugey, leilung and B_Dub_Saint like this.

12-20-2023, 01:45 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by stickman I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid. I also just read that if Tomlin becomes available Chicago will be willing to do whatever it takes to get him. That price could be way up there. Few people have the liquid capital that Gayle Benson enjoys. Even other NFL owners. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 03:57 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. B_Dub_Saint and Sinner like this.

12-20-2023, 04:02 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. Youth is key here. It’s clear to see that Masters like Belichick or Tomlin have periods where everything clicks and they themselves have a fire, then it fades or passes. Unfortunately, our current excuse has neither fire or youth or any special presence at all, so these more legendary old cats might seem attractive, but we need something completely new. B_Dub_Saint, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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12-20-2023, 04:38 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops! B_Dub_Saint likes this.