Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC

MatthewT · 12-20-2023, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job.

Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose.

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

From what I'm hearing (via NFL Radio mainly) it's the team and not Tomlin that may have inklings of moving on. That is if there is anything to it beyond the same old nearing the end of the year clickbait. I see no reason why he wouldn't want to play out his contract.

From what I've also been hearing Bill Belichick and Dan Quinn may be the most likely candidates out there.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

Speaking of "clickbait", I just saw that Florio has put your scenario out there with this article.

stickman · 12-20-2023, 01:41 PM

I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

I also just read that if Tomlin becomes available Chicago will be willing to do whatever it takes to get him. That price could be way up there. Few people have the liquid capital that Gayle Benson enjoys. Even other NFL owners.

B_Dub_Saint · 12-20-2023, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If Pittsburg does decide to move on from Tomlin he'd essentially be a free agent and wouldn't cost us any draft picks. Our difference with Payton was his leaving was his idea so we were able to retain his rights.

That said, I'd be all in on Tomlin.

Oh, and welcome back!

Good to see you brother!

B_Dub_Saint · 12-20-2023, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Pretty amazing information if true. BTW, glad to see you again ole friend!

Glad to be back my friend! We all need to do a tailgate again soon.

Rugby Saint II · 12-20-2023, 03:57 PM

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Sinner · 12-20-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Youth is key here. It’s clear to see that Masters like Belichick or Tomlin have periods where everything clicks and they themselves have a fire, then it fades or passes. Unfortunately, our current excuse has neither fire or youth or any special presence at all, so these more legendary old cats might seem attractive, but we need something completely new.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2023, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!

12-20-2023, 12:43 PM	#21
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,706	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job. Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose. I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. B_Dub_Saint and K Major like this.

12-20-2023, 01:19 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by MatthewT I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. From what I'm hearing (via NFL Radio mainly) it's the team and not Tomlin that may have inklings of moving on. That is if there is anything to it beyond the same old nearing the end of the year clickbait. I see no reason why he wouldn't want to play out his contract. From what I've also been hearing Bill Belichick and Dan Quinn may be the most likely candidates out there. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 01:31 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by MatthewT I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract. Speaking of "clickbait", I just saw that Florio has put your scenario out there with this article. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

12-20-2023, 01:41 PM	#24
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,602	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid. neugey, leilung and B_Dub_Saint like this.

12-20-2023, 01:45 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by stickman I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid. I also just read that if Tomlin becomes available Chicago will be willing to do whatever it takes to get him. That price could be way up there. Few people have the liquid capital that Gayle Benson enjoys. Even other NFL owners. B_Dub_Saint likes this.

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B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If Pittsburg does decide to move on from Tomlin he'd essentially be a free agent and wouldn't cost us any draft picks. Our difference with Payton was his leaving was his idea so we were able to retain his rights. That said, I'd be all in on Tomlin. Oh, and welcome back! Good to see you brother! AsylumGuido likes this.

12-20-2023, 02:03 PM	#27
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by MatthewT Pretty amazing information if true. BTW, glad to see you again ole friend! Glad to be back my friend! We all need to do a tailgate again soon. MatthewT, leilung and K Major like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,760	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. B_Dub_Saint and Sinner like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. Youth is key here. It’s clear to see that Masters like Belichick or Tomlin have periods where everything clicks and they themselves have a fire, then it fades or passes. Unfortunately, our current excuse has neither fire or youth or any special presence at all, so these more legendary old cats might seem attractive, but we need something completely new. B_Dub_Saint, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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12-20-2023, 04:38 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system. Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops! B_Dub_Saint likes this.