Fire Dennis Allen NOW

dizzle88 · 01-17-2024, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Have you checked out today’s press conference with Mickey ?

Comparing Dennis Allen to 4 Hall of fame coaches is absolutely ridiculous. He is so adamant of defending a terrible head coach. He isn’t a new HC.

Something is off with this guy. His tone & coming across so defensive to reporters. And the gum chewing was annoying as hell.

It's baffling isn't it.

Makes me sick listening to Loomis drone on about his sheer blind love for this below average doucebag.

Loomis can go too. Glorified mathematician that has us in cap hell every year. Too spineless to make the correct calls.

What an A-hole

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2024, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It's baffling isn't it.

Makes me sick listening to Loomis drone on about his sheer blind love for this below average doucebag.

Loomis can go too. Glorified mathematician that has us in cap hell every year. Too spineless to make the correct calls.

What an A-hole

Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish.

By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some.

Sinner · 01-17-2024, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish.

By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some.

Translation: “Hey Dizz, eat sh*t and enjoy it, just like me partner.”

BakoSaint · 01-17-2024, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish.

By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some.

I wouldn't say Mickey Loomis is not going anywhere. He is probably going to the liquor store right now.

The team is in cap hell. A group of players openly defied the head coach on the field and we will be signing the vast majority of them to restructures that cement their place on the roster well into the future because we can't afford the dead cap to move on. Not to mention a our highest paid oline has a degenerative knee condition and will be back on a restructure, and we know our QB is mediocre and overpaid for his production but he will be back on a restucture. Our highest paid edge rusher had 2 sacks and publicly backed rebellion on the field, but he will be back on a restructure. We have more than enough cap to keep the band together, but no option to significantly break it up until they are the Rolling Stones age.

The manner in which our cap is accounted is not confusing. Simply put most teams do what they think is best for the team to compete and then explain it to fans. The Saints do what their salary cap situation allows, then make up excuses of why that was the best way to compete, when the truth is that a soft rebuild is increasingly impossible due to their cap situation. They just pretend they did not want the free agents they lose, pretend they don't want to replace one star with another (for example not signing a veteran tackle to replace Armstead), and pretend they believe in players who are clearly mediocre, washed, openly rebelling, etc, because the truth is they really have only two financial options with cap hell: pass the buck with the same general crew of aging players, or enter into a hard rebuild for at least 2 years and have to win with youth.

lee909 · 01-17-2024, 07:31 PM

yeah we are not in cap hell

We are just about to restructure the contracts of Carr,Ramczyk, and a number of 30+ year olds and make them uuncutable for at least another 2 or 3 years because its the best thing to do long term, not because its only thing to do

TheOak · 01-18-2024, 03:28 AM

Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen.

Tom Landry - Started the franchise and brought in Staubach

Bill Belichick - Brought in Brady

Bill Walsh - Brought in Montana

Chuck Noll - Brought in Bradshaw

Sean Payton - Brought in Drew Brees

Dennis Allen - Brought in… Derek Carr

SmashMouth · 01-18-2024, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen.

Tom Landry - Started the franchise and brought in Staubach

Bill Belichick - Brought in Brady

Bill Walsh - Brought in Montana

Chuck Noll - Brought in Bradshaw

Sean Payton - Brought in Drew Brees

Dennis Allen - Brought in… Derek Carr

neugey · 01-18-2024, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen.

Allen will ditch his visor and don a fedora so he can cosplay Coach Landry.

SaintFanQ · 01-18-2024, 11:29 AM

I just hope DA realises how lucky he is to still have his job at the Saints!
I just don't get it! But hey, what do I know!
He'd better get is ass in gear next season and prove to me and all the other fans that wanted him gone that he's the guy to get us to the playoffs next season.
If he doesn't then he'll need to leave New Orleans under the cover of darkness! Lol!

Sinner · 01-18-2024, 12:21 PM

There will be pain.

01-17-2024, 05:03 PM	#41
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by K Major Have you checked out today’s press conference with Mickey ? Comparing Dennis Allen to 4 Hall of fame coaches is absolutely ridiculous. He is so adamant of defending a terrible head coach. He isn’t a new HC. Something is off with this guy. His tone & coming across so defensive to reporters. And the gum chewing was annoying as hell. It's baffling isn't it. Makes me sick listening to Loomis drone on about his sheer blind love for this below average doucebag. Loomis can go too. Glorified mathematician that has us in cap hell every year. Too spineless to make the correct calls. What an A-hole bobdog86 likes this.

01-17-2024, 06:22 PM	#42
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by dizzle88 It's baffling isn't it. Makes me sick listening to Loomis drone on about his sheer blind love for this below average doucebag. Loomis can go too. Glorified mathematician that has us in cap hell every year. Too spineless to make the correct calls. What an A-hole Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish. By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some.

01-17-2024, 06:50 PM	#43
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish. By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some. Translation: “Hey Dizz, eat sh*t and enjoy it, just like me partner.” K Major likes this.
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01-17-2024, 07:27 PM	#44
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not going anywhere. You probably have to learn to deal with that reality and move on. Just saying, diz. But, do as you wish. By the way, the cap isn't in hell. There's always far more than needed, it's just accounted for in a manner that confuses some. I wouldn't say Mickey Loomis is not going anywhere. He is probably going to the liquor store right now. The team is in cap hell. A group of players openly defied the head coach on the field and we will be signing the vast majority of them to restructures that cement their place on the roster well into the future because we can't afford the dead cap to move on. Not to mention a our highest paid oline has a degenerative knee condition and will be back on a restructure, and we know our QB is mediocre and overpaid for his production but he will be back on a restucture. Our highest paid edge rusher had 2 sacks and publicly backed rebellion on the field, but he will be back on a restructure. We have more than enough cap to keep the band together, but no option to significantly break it up until they are the Rolling Stones age. The manner in which our cap is accounted is not confusing. Simply put most teams do what they think is best for the team to compete and then explain it to fans. The Saints do what their salary cap situation allows, then make up excuses of why that was the best way to compete, when the truth is that a soft rebuild is increasingly impossible due to their cap situation. They just pretend they did not want the free agents they lose, pretend they don't want to replace one star with another (for example not signing a veteran tackle to replace Armstead), and pretend they believe in players who are clearly mediocre, washed, openly rebelling, etc, because the truth is they really have only two financial options with cap hell: pass the buck with the same general crew of aging players, or enter into a hard rebuild for at least 2 years and have to win with youth. Sinner likes this.
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01-17-2024, 07:31 PM	#45
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,777 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW yeah we are not in cap hell We are just about to restructure the contracts of Carr,Ramczyk, and a number of 30+ year olds and make them uuncutable for at least another 2 or 3 years because its the best thing to do long term, not because its only thing to do dizzle88, K Major and BakoSaint like this.

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01-18-2024, 03:28 AM	#46
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen. Tom Landry - Started the franchise and brought in Staubach Bill Belichick - Brought in Brady Bill Walsh - Brought in Montana Chuck Noll - Brought in Bradshaw Sean Payton - Brought in Drew Brees Dennis Allen - Brought in… Derek Carr Danno and Sinner like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,061 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by TheOak Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen. Tom Landry - Started the franchise and brought in Staubach Bill Belichick - Brought in Brady Bill Walsh - Brought in Montana Chuck Noll - Brought in Bradshaw Sean Payton - Brought in Drew Brees Dennis Allen - Brought in… Derek Carr TheOak and Sinner like this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW Originally Posted by TheOak Loomis either only does 1/2 assed homework or has a lazy lackey feed him his talking points. ALL of those coaches can contribute their successful turnaround to the same reason Sean Payton was successful. Making Loomis’s analogy perfect for Sean, not so much Dennis Allen. Allen will ditch his visor and don a fedora so he can cosplay Coach Landry. TheOak likes this.

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SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 790	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW I just hope DA realises how lucky he is to still have his job at the Saints! I just don't get it! But hey, what do I know! He'd better get is ass in gear next season and prove to me and all the other fans that wanted him gone that he's the guy to get us to the playoffs next season. If he doesn't then he'll need to leave New Orleans under the cover of darkness! Lol!

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW There will be pain. K Major likes this.
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