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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team...

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Old 01-24-2024, 01:23 PM   #71
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Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW

My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
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Old 01-24-2024, 02:21 PM   #72
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My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
We appear to be being driven into a swamp, by design. Why? I do not know.
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Old 01-24-2024, 03:01 PM   #73
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My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
But a competent OC might see it as a way to become the Saints HC once DA is fired.
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Old 01-24-2024, 04:29 PM   #74
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Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
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Old 01-24-2024, 05:39 PM   #75
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Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
Boy still gettin paid to barely move his pencil lips, and that’s about it.
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Old 01-24-2024, 06:34 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
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Old 01-24-2024, 06:54 PM   #77
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Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
Uh, yeah, right.



Where do you come up with this crap?



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Old 01-24-2024, 09:44 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
Kind of dark analogy, but it’s makes a good point regardless.

I certainly hope that’s not the case, but I’m sure we’ll know more when the season begins.

Has anyone even heard of anyone even remotely interested in the OC job here? Or anyone the Saints are looking at?

Cause it’s quiet….too quiet. Lol!
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Old 01-25-2024, 09:50 AM   #79
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Originally Posted by jnormand View Post
Kind of dark analogy, but it’s makes a good point regardless.

I certainly hope that’s not the case, but I’m sure we’ll know more when the season begins.

Has anyone even heard of anyone even remotely interested in the OC job here? Or anyone the Saints are looking at?

Cause it’s quiet….too quiet. Lol!
Klint Kubiak, Zac Robinson, Ronald Curry, and Mike Sullivan are among the names of those interviewed so far.

Edit: Here's an updated list of OC interviewees by the Saints:

- *Shane Waldron, Seahawks OC
- Zac Robinson, Rams QBs coach
- Dan Pitcher, Bengals QBs coach
- Jerrod Johnson, Texans QBs coach
- Klint Kubiak, 49ers pass game specialist
- Brian Griese, 49ers QBs coach
- Ronald Curry, Saints QBs coach
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Old 01-25-2024, 10:16 AM   #80
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Klint Kubiak, Zac Robinson, Ronald Curry, and Mike Sullivan are among the names of those interviewed so far.

Edit: Here's an updated list of OC interviewees by the Saints:

- *Shane Waldron, Seahawks OC
- Zac Robinson, Rams QBs coach
- Dan Pitcher, Bengals QBs coach
- Jerrod Johnson, Texans QBs coach
- Klint Kubiak, 49ers pass game specialist
- Brian Griese, 49ers QBs coach
- Ronald Curry, Saints QBs coach
We need a new Head Coach and a new GM… and most likely a new OWNER.
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