Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994547)

I am very consistent. I am mad because we retained Dennis Allen and I am mad because we did not rebuild. I don't believe we could win without a rebuild under any coach and I don't think we could win under Dennis Allen even with a genius rebuild, so I will be mad if we don't do both unless I am proven wrong by results.

Renting an injury prone lazy first round bust for $13 million for the year at DE less than 12 months after signing both our existing starting DE's to fresh new contracts is not consistent with rebuilding. My argument was never that our cap situation prevents us from signing 1-2 big free agents, its that we are more than 1-2 big free agents away from winning because those 1-2 big free agents are a break even wash when weighed against the aging of our core, and the only way we can afford them is by restructuring and extending our aging core and letting promise young players like Hendrickson, Ellis, and Yiadom walk.

Dennis Allen has had 5 years as head coach and he has never beat a winning team with their true franchise QB starting. When he occasionally beats a winning team its with a journeyman Baker Mayfield on trial, Gardner Minshew filling in, etc. He is a proven mediocre commodity.

I would not be celebrating the Chase Young signing if Sean Payton was still here. I have been critical of Mickey Loomis' cap management for over 5 years. This reminds me of the Nick Fairley signing. Hopefully it is not so big of a disaster. Fairley took Loomis for all he was worth. He flashed ok production the first year, signed a long term deal, and immediately went to see his own doctor about a pre-existing condition the Saints didn't bother to check out and kept all the guaranteed money from that big deal without ever playing a down. Mickey Loomis has been dead to me since then. He probably forgot to order a thorough physical that covered pre-existing conditions before the Fairley extension because he was drunk. The years of the Fairley contract were the key window years of Drew Brees peak. I can see the same thing happening with Young. He was a borderline draft bust like Fairley, had injury and effort concerns like Fairley, had to sign a prove-it deal with us like Fairley, and either he is totally unproductive for us, or he manages to at least be ok. History tells us that if he is at least ok, Loomis will jump to sign him to a monster extension, maybe even early in-season, and then he will slack off and blame injury.

One thing that will be critical in 2024 is how the NFL orders the games for the Saints schedule. If we play teams like the Chiefs, Cowboys, Packers, Eagles, Browns, Rams, and even the Cousins Falcons (if he is back week 1) and Mayfield Bucs early, we may get off to a slow start. But if we play the Panthers, Giants, Raiders, and Broncos for our first 4 games, its possible we could start hot at 3-1 and lead Loomis to give himself, Allen, Carr, Young, etc new long term contracts. Last season our weak schedule which started with especially weak opponents led to giving Ruiz and Granderson unmerited contract extensions, and would have led to extensions for DA and Loomis if we had beat the Packers. Hopefully our schedule will start with the prove it games against teams like Dallas and KC so that if anyone wants an extension they have to earn it.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 994554)

I'm not ready for a rebuild. I believe we have a good nucleus. We can add a few pieces we are right in the mix for the playoffs. If we lay another turd I'll join you in calling for a rebuilding.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994546)

So what you're saying is that Allen's HC seat is hot?

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 994556)

“What does that tell you if a majority of the people think you're a fool?”

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 994558)

I think we already established you are indeed a fool. Also, with all the hate you spew, why are you here? Are you just a kid and don't remember the worst of times? What about when we picked up Jeff Blake and he went down? Everyone thought the sky was falling. AB stepped in and gave us a good show. Brooks quarterbacked the Saints to only their second division championship and to the first playoff victory in franchise history. Good things come when things look bleak. I just hope you find another team to your liking. We don't need you here.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 994554)

I'm not ready for a rebuild. I believe we have a good nucleus. We can add a few pieces we are right in the mix for the playoffs. If we lay another turd I'll join you in calling for a rebuilding.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 994556)

“What does that tell you if a majority of the people think you're a fool?”

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 994567)

What evidence do you have that "majority of the people" think that?

We could make that same assertion about you. You come here everyday and *****, moan, and complain about something you cannot do anything about, and isn't going to change anytime soon. Insanity is typically defined as doing the same thing and expecting a different result. You've been at this campaign for about two years since Allen was hired and yet nothing about the Saints, and I mean absolutely nothing (other than PC leaving), has changed.

It's not foolish to try to figure out how to make lemonade from lemons when lemons are all you got. But when you have a handful of lemons and expect to finish with a glass of Ace of Spades? Which one is more foolish?

SFIAH