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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint I want this team, under the current leadership to win. You don’t. I would hope any true fan would want the same, Boston....

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Old 07-08-2024, 04:01 PM   #11
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive

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I want this team, under the current leadership to win. You don’t.
I would hope any true fan would want the same, Boston.
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Old 07-08-2024, 04:02 PM   #12
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You were the one always complaining like a 12-year-old girl, not me. At least have the guts to own it
My complaining is like a loyal fan whose team has been consistently disappointing us since Drew was in decline and Sean Payton started packing his bags. You said that the sky wasn’t falling and that we should give it more time to develop, and you’re saying it again this year. Even a 12 year old girl has got the brains to know that you can’t put lipstick on this pig, and call it a supermodel. Do you have the guts to see it for what it is?
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Old 07-08-2024, 04:18 PM   #13
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My complaining is like a loyal fan whose team has been consistently disappointing us since Drew was in decline and Sean Payton started packing his bags. You said that the sky wasn’t falling and that we should give it more time to develop, and you’re saying it again this year. Even a 12 year old girl has got the brains to know that you can’t put lipstick on this pig, and call it a supermodel. Do you have the guts to see it for what it is?
There is no loyalty in you for the Saints. You are a fair-weather, spoiled detractor of the team.
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Old 07-08-2024, 04:53 PM   #14
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There is no loyalty in you for the Saints. You are a fair-weather, spoiled detractor of the team.
There hasn’t been fair weather in a long time, and I am as loyal as ever, but the Saints front office has been anything but loyal to its fans. Perhaps you might want to redirect your personal attack to management, instead of at a fan for calling it as it is.
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Old 07-08-2024, 05:06 PM   #15
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive

Ironic how the "Reasons to be Positive" thread lasted for exactly one, positive post.
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Old 07-08-2024, 05:15 PM   #16
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive

Consider the negative source, '76.

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Old 07-08-2024, 05:34 PM   #17
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Consider the negative source, '76.

Consider that the negative source is a failing front office, and tell your wallet to IGNORE them for awhile. Until then, you’d be wise to beef up your IGNORE button for me, because there WILL be pain.

See, I’m frustrated with my team for underperforming, while you’re frustrated with me for being frustrated.

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Old 07-08-2024, 09:38 PM   #18
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive

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My complaining is like a loyal fan whose team has been consistently disappointing us since Drew was in decline and Sean Payton started packing his bags. You said that the sky wasn’t falling and that we should give it more time to develop, and you’re saying it again this year. Even a 12 year old girl has got the brains to know that you can’t put lipstick on this pig, and call it a supermodel. Do you have the guts to see it for what it is?
Actually my complaint with you isn't your complaining about the current regime. My true complaint is that you have absolutely no clue how to fix it. So, you clear out what you consider to be the current mess. Then what? Who do you bring in to give you the championship caliber squad you so desperately want?

An you just can't wash your hands of it and say "Well, that's Mrs. Benson's problem to solve." If she had the capacity to solve that problem, then she would have done it. You are asking her to dismiss a leadership team that brought her and her husband (and us fans BTW) great joy by bringing a Championship to New Orleans. If it were easy, or even possible, to recreate the GM,HC,QB leadership squad that got a championship, don't you think that she, and 30 other teams in the NFL would do that?

Let's not forget that leadership team got to the top of the mountain once. That same group failed to reach the top 14 other seasons.

So, fine, get rid of Dennis Allen, Mickey Loomis, Dennis Lauscha, and even Mrs. Benson and all the players. But with no plan of how to fill that void, and I doubt that you have one, all of your complaining is really just a waste of time.

And none of this is wanting to settle for mediocrity. It's just operating in the reality that none of the above people will be going anywhere before the end of the 2024 regular season. So, it's just more productive to discuss what these people can do, instead of complaining about what they can't when there's absolutely nothing that be done about getting rid of any of them in the forseeable future.

What I want to hear from you:

Get rid of Dennis Allen. Replace him with ______________.
Carr has got to go. Draft/Trade/Sign for ________________.
Get rid of Mickey Loomis. Replace him with _____________.
Get rid of Lauscha. The new team president needs to be _____________.
Have Mrs Benson sell the team. Sell the team to ________________

But you don't even try to fill in the blanks. Clearly for a championship team you feel the need to replace these people. So, exactly who are they? Who out there is actually going to make the difference you are looking for?

BTW I don't have a clue to these blanks either. But like the others I'm hoping we can roll with the current squad and make some progress. Sometimes the injury bug stays home, units like the offensive line gels, and new system and new spark on the offensive side can make a difference. There is a reason that the NFL turns over a minimum of 6 playoff teams each and every year. Will that be the 2024 Saints? Maybe or maybe not. But unlike you, I'm not going to just walk away from the entire 2024 season because the personnel that's currently in place is absolutely not to your liking.

SFIAH
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:17 PM   #19
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Actually my complaint with you isn't your complaining about the current regime. My true complaint is that you have absolutely no clue how to fix it. So, you clear out what you consider to be the current mess. Then what? Who do you bring in to give you the championship caliber squad you so desperately want?

An you just can't wash your hands of it and say "Well, that's Mrs. Benson's problem to solve." If she had the capacity to solve that problem, then she would have done it. You are asking her to dismiss a leadership team that brought her and her husband (and us fans BTW) great joy by bringing a Championship to New Orleans. If it were easy, or even possible, to recreate the GM,HC,QB leadership squad that got a championship, don't you think that she, and 30 other teams in the NFL would do that?

Let's not forget that leadership team got to the top of the mountain once. That same group failed to reach the top 14 other seasons.

So, fine, get rid of Dennis Allen, Mickey Loomis, Dennis Lauscha, and even Mrs. Benson and all the players. But with no plan of how to fill that void, and I doubt that you have one, all of your complaining is really just a waste of time.

And none of this is wanting to settle for mediocrity. It's just operating in the reality that none of the above people will be going anywhere before the end of the 2024 regular season. So, it's just more productive to discuss what these people can do, instead of complaining about what they can't when there's absolutely nothing that be done about getting rid of any of them in the forseeable future.

What I want to hear from you:

Get rid of Dennis Allen. Replace him with ______________.
Carr has got to go. Draft/Trade/Sign for ________________.
Get rid of Mickey Loomis. Replace him with _____________.
Get rid of Lauscha. The new team president needs to be _____________.
Have Mrs Benson sell the team. Sell the team to ________________

But you don't even try to fill in the blanks. Clearly for a championship team you feel the need to replace these people. So, exactly who are they? Who out there is actually going to make the difference you are looking for?

BTW I don't have a clue to these blanks either. But like the others I'm hoping we can roll with the current squad and make some progress. Sometimes the injury bug stays home, units like the offensive line gels, and new system and new spark on the offensive side can make a difference. There is a reason that the NFL turns over a minimum of 6 playoff teams each and every year. Will that be the 2024 Saints? Maybe or maybe not. But unlike you, I'm not going to just walk away from the entire 2024 season because the personnel that's currently in place is absolutely not to your liking.

SFIAH
It’s not my job to fill in the blanks. If I ran my personal/professional business the way Gayle runs this one, my customers would come after me with pitchforks. My business runs smoothly and satisfactory enough (even on my shoestring budget), that I get to curl up on the couch on Sunday (and some embarrassing Thursday Nights) to hopefully watch some championship-level Football, played by multi millionaires, run by billionaires who don’t seem to give s rat’s a$$ about what I (or you) enjoy. So I drop in to vent to other fans about what I am (or am not) witnessing with a team that I have followed and rooted for for decades.

It’s too bad that that’s not what you want to hear from me.
You either get to hear me vent, or scroll on, or set me to IGNORE (almost like Quido LOL) until our team is owned by someone who cares about putting a winning professional football team on the field.

I wish we didn’t have to even have this conversation… but here we are… again.
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Old 07-09-2024, 07:57 AM   #20
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive

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It’s actually NOT easy to b*tch and moan.
You sure about that? You do a very good job at it. As much as you detest Guido and his stance about things, you are him. You're just on the opposite end of that pole. The ying to his yang.
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