Reasons To Be Positive

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2024, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Derek Carr processes slow. For me, it’s easy to read his eyes. Concerns surrounding him are legit, yet overblown at the same time. He’s no worse than average. Our major concern is offensive line. That’s it. That’s the cause for caution.

Yup. Average places him above half the starting QB's in the league. The chances are very slim to find anyone better. Six QB's were drafted in the first round of this year's draft. history tells us that four of those will probably never be a regular starter in the league. One may become another Carr or Kirk Cousins type. One might turn out to be a top 10 type QB in the league. The question is which one would that be?

As for our offensive line, from everything I've read the offensive philosophy being introduced by Kubiak is supposed to be far more o-line friendly. I'm hoping that is true.

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Average places him above half the starting QB's in the league. The chances are very slim to find anyone better. Six QB's were drafted in the first round of this year's draft. history tells us that four of those will probably never be a regular starter in the league. One may become another Carr or Kirk Cousins type. One might turn out to be a top 10 type QB in the league. The question is which one would that be?

As for our offensive line, from everything I've read the offensive philosophy being introduced by Kubiak is supposed to be far more o-line friendly. I'm hoping that is true.

With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none.

rezburna · 07-16-2024, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none.

Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future.

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future.

The nearer, the better.

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2024, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future.

That would be nice. I wish we can be that lucky.

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That would be nice. I wish we can be that lucky.

It’s not about luck. It’s about recognizing where your strengths lie, and focusing on it as a priority, and kicking the Raider-Refuse to the curb.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

It’s not about luck. It’s about recognizing where your strengths lie, and focusing on it as a priority, and kicking the Raider-Refuse to the curb.

And then what? Where do the strengths lie. How, and more importantly who, do you get to cultivate them.

Same old song: Fire Allen.

You call Allen a limp-d*ck. So, your plan is to fire him and then just not have a head coach?

So, it's not about luck. Then what is your plan so that luck is not needed?

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future.

That is currently an open question. Kubiak has a year to get those guys up to speed so they can make some decisions in the next off season.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none.

That contract is not ironproof. If there were a guy that the Saints were willing the spend the money on, they could construct another contract to make it work.

Fact of the matter is because Carr's contract balloons after this year, something is going to have to give. So, if the Saints wanted someone else, they could designate him as a post June 1 trade/cut and get in a new guy.

But as always, who might that be? Tua? Now you've gone from $35 mil/year to $50M/year.

Who better could the Saints have gotten last off season when they picked up Carr? And why when top tier QBs are making $50M/year plus would you think the Saints could get a top 10 QB for anything less?

SFIAH

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That contract is not ironproof. If there were a guy that the Saints were willing the spend the money on, they could construct another contract to make it work.

Fact of the matter is because Carr's contract balloons after this year, something is going to have to give. So, if the Saints wanted someone else, they could designate him as a post June 1 trade/cut and get in a new guy.

But as always, who might that be? Tua? Now you've gone from $35 mil/year to $50M/year.

Who better could the Saints have gotten last off season when they picked up Carr? And why when top tier QBs are making $50M/year plus would you think the Saints could get a top 10 QB for anything less?

SFIAH

Stop with the “coulda”. Carr is our guy. Now run with it. LOL

07-16-2024, 01:01 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by rezburna I think Derek Carr processes slow. For me, it’s easy to read his eyes. Concerns surrounding him are legit, yet overblown at the same time. He’s no worse than average. Our major concern is offensive line. That’s it. That’s the cause for caution. Yup. Average places him above half the starting QB's in the league. The chances are very slim to find anyone better. Six QB's were drafted in the first round of this year's draft. history tells us that four of those will probably never be a regular starter in the league. One may become another Carr or Kirk Cousins type. One might turn out to be a top 10 type QB in the league. The question is which one would that be? As for our offensive line, from everything I've read the offensive philosophy being introduced by Kubiak is supposed to be far more o-line friendly. I'm hoping that is true.
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07-16-2024, 01:04 PM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Average places him above half the starting QB's in the league. The chances are very slim to find anyone better. Six QB's were drafted in the first round of this year's draft. history tells us that four of those will probably never be a regular starter in the league. One may become another Carr or Kirk Cousins type. One might turn out to be a top 10 type QB in the league. The question is which one would that be? As for our offensive line, from everything I've read the offensive philosophy being introduced by Kubiak is supposed to be far more o-line friendly. I'm hoping that is true. With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none.
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07-16-2024, 01:05 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,089	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by Sinner With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none. Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future.

07-16-2024, 01:09 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by rezburna Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future. The nearer, the better.
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07-16-2024, 01:35 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by rezburna Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future. That would be nice. I wish we can be that lucky. leilung and rezburna like this.

07-16-2024, 01:38 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That would be nice. I wish we can be that lucky. It’s not about luck. It’s about recognizing where your strengths lie, and focusing on it as a priority, and kicking the Raider-Refuse to the curb.
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07-16-2024, 06:48 PM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by Sinner It’s not about luck. It’s about recognizing where your strengths lie, and focusing on it as a priority, and kicking the Raider-Refuse to the curb. And then what? Where do the strengths lie. How, and more importantly who, do you get to cultivate them. Same old song: Fire Allen. You call Allen a limp-d*ck. So, your plan is to fire him and then just not have a head coach? So, it's not about luck. Then what is your plan so that luck is not needed? SFIAH

07-16-2024, 06:42 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by rezburna Haener or Rattler could very well be better in the near future. That is currently an open question. Kubiak has a year to get those guys up to speed so they can make some decisions in the next off season. SFIAH

07-16-2024, 06:38 PM	#9
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by Sinner With the contract that our (dis) organization gave Carr, chances of finding anyone better are not slim… they are none. That contract is not ironproof. If there were a guy that the Saints were willing the spend the money on, they could construct another contract to make it work. Fact of the matter is because Carr's contract balloons after this year, something is going to have to give. So, if the Saints wanted someone else, they could designate him as a post June 1 trade/cut and get in a new guy. But as always, who might that be? Tua? Now you've gone from $35 mil/year to $50M/year. Who better could the Saints have gotten last off season when they picked up Carr? And why when top tier QBs are making $50M/year plus would you think the Saints could get a top 10 QB for anything less? SFIAH
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