The fallacy with your analogy is that it is your opinion that Carr and Allen can't get us all the way there. I believe whole-heartedly that they can. They may, in fact, give us the best chance we'll see in the next few decades for all we know. Your hatred guides your every thought process. You make the narrative fit your hate. Not only do you blindly feel that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but you see the grass beneath your feet as something vile and barren.

You have to face the fact that not everyone feels the way you do. There's the sinner guy and the cowpattie guy, of course, but that's sure nothing to hang your hat on. Pretty much everyone around here thinks they are just hate spewing flunkies, as well.

The fallacy with your analogy is that it is your opinion that Carr and Allen can't get us all the way there. I believe whole-heartedly that they can. They may, in fact, give us the best chance we'll see in the next few decades for all we know. Your hatred guides your every thought process. You make the narrative fit your hate. Not only do you blindly feel that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but you see the grass beneath your feet as something vile and barren.

You have to face the fact that not everyone feels the way you do. There's the sinner guy and the cowpattie guy, of course, but that's sure nothing to hang your hat on. Pretty much everyone around here thinks they are just hate spewing flunkies, as well.

That sort of rebuilding commonly results in that generational failure that you mentioned. I've been living with my Saints since 1967 and what we have today is miles ahead of most of those dismal years.

Sometimes you present yourself as the only Baby Boomer on this forum whose endured hardship and futility, intentional or not is irrelevant. But trust me, your not. As a Saints fan we've all endured futility and hardship. while yes, we may be in a better place than we have been in years past, but are we really championship quality or just mediocre. That's really the debate. I try to listen to everyone's two cents. You have have good points, Sinner has good points but I don't agree with everything anyone has to say. my .02 is something's missing...is it in personnel? Management? ownership? We have a good QB not great, we have a coach is he good enough to win a championship? not so sure.
Is it time for Mickey to move on? i believe it is.

Sometimes you present yourself as the only Baby Boomer on this forum whose endured hardship and futility, intentional or not is irrelevant. But trust me, your not. As a Saints fan we've all endured futility and hardship. while yes, we may be in a better place than we have been in years past, but are we really championship quality or just mediocre. That's really the debate. I try to listen to everyone's two cents. You have have good points, Sinner has good points but I don't agree with everything anyone has to say. my .02 is something's missing...is it in personnel? Management? ownership? We have a good QB not great, we have a coach is he good enough to win a championship? not so sure.
Is it time for Mickey to move on? i believe it is.

Sometimes you present yourself as the only Baby Boomer on this forum whose endured hardship and futility, intentional or not is irrelevant. But trust me, your not. As a Saints fan we've all endured futility and hardship. while yes, we may be in a better place than we have been in years past, but are we really championship quality or just mediocre. That's really the debate. I try to listen to everyone's two cents. You have have good points, Sinner has good points but I don't agree with everything anyone has to say. my .02 is something's missing...is it in personnel? Management? ownership? We have a good QB not great, we have a coach is he good enough to win a championship? not so sure.
Is it time for Mickey to move on? i believe it is.

watch out... when you point out reality and facts... you get demonized here. it is tough being right.

I believe SFIAH has addressed these questions himself and has failed to get any suggestions. How does replacing Carr guarantee he'd be able to be replaced by anyone better? The same goes for Dennis Allen. Who would be a replacement that guarantees the defense would remain as good as it is now and the team as a whole would be better? And what GM would be guaranteed to do a better job than Loomis?

Are we championship quality or just mediocre? I'd say we're closer to becoming championship quality than we might be if we flushed it all down the drain and started over. It just makes sense that it's easier to reach the top from the middle as opposed to starting at the bottom.

Perhaps, but sometimes mediocrity is the highest level attained or attainable. Just because we are in the middle doesn't mean reaching the top is attainable.
Doesn't mean I hate the coach, GM or even certain players. Would you be happy with 5, 6 or 7 years down the road with a 7-10, 8-9, 9-8 maybe 10-7 record with no realistic chance of producing a SB? And I know you will say there's always a chance, but come on.

Perhaps, but sometimes mediocrity is the highest level attained or attainable. Just because we are in the middle doesn't mean reaching the top is attainable.
Doesn't mean I hate the coach, GM or even certain players. Would you be happy with 5, 6 or 7 years down the road with a 7-10, 8-9, 9-8 maybe 10-7 record with no realistic chance of producing a SB? And I know you will say there's always a chance, but come on.