A gentle suggestion for all involved.

Please take the back and forth debates elsewhere please. I'm not saying that the debate isn't worthy of discussion. It's just that the back and forth drags down the supposed vibe of this thread because a single post generates a dozen back and forth replies.

My suggestion (not that anyone has to take it):

1. Quote the post here to debate.
2. Start a new thread using that quote and your response.
3. Get the link of the new thread and post it as a reply to the original post here.

That way anyone who wants to join that debate can go to the new thread and have at it.

I did the HB one as a sample and transferred all the comments here to it.

https://blackandgold.com/saints/1039...t-too-old.html (Honey Badger: Elite ot too old?)

Thanks for your consideration.

SFIAH

Not too long ago this was a peaceful place to go and get away and be among friends. Now Facebook is more positive than this board is. We have several sunshine pumpers. I'm one of them. And then we have several seriously disillusioned fans who are lashing out and bringing the board down with bad vibes.

How many times do we need to hear from rightfully upset fans complaining about the team? I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm just trying to have fun with friends loving my Saints.

I get it. I really do. Last season I was feeling like a fool for buying in too deep emotionally and I was seriously disappointed with DA. This is a fresh start. The glass is over half full!

This is a new season with a brand new offense. We have a top 10 defense. Our special teams should be special again. DA seems to have bought into the KK mentality of holding players accountable and demanding excellence. Let's all try hard to be a little nicer to the other posters who want the same thing you do. Success! Let's bond together behind our Saints and try to be civil in our discussions.

I feel all your pain but I agree with SFIAH that there is a board to discuss other topics. Let's use one of those if we want to do more than politely debate. By the way, name calling is beneath all of us. Peace Out!

Not too long ago this was a peaceful place to go and get away and be among friends. Now Facebook is more positive than this board is. We have several sunshine pumpers. I'm one of them. And then we have several seriously disillusioned fans who are lashing out and bringing the board down with bad vibes.

How many times do we need to hear from rightfully upset fans complaining about the team? I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm just trying to have fun with friends loving my Saints.

I get it. I really do. Last season I was feeling like a fool for buying in too deep emotionally and I was seriously disappointed with DA. This is a fresh start. The glass is over half full!

This is a new season with a brand new offense. We have a top 10 defense. Our special teams should be special again. DA seems to have bought into the KK mentality of holding players accountable and demanding excellence. Let's all try hard to be a little nicer to the other posters who want the same thing you do. Success! Let's bond together behind our Saints and try to be civil in our discussions.

I feel all your pain but I agree with SFIAH that there is a board to discuss other topics. Let's use one of those if we want to do more than politely debate. By the way, name calling is beneath all of us. Peace Out!

This used to be a peaceful (and passionate) place to get away and be among friends, maybe not too long ago, but you have to admit that it all centered around THE SAINTS. And THE SAINTS were an entirely different experience, even during our decline. I remember LIVE CHATS during games, where we were all on the edge of our seats, many times right down to the final seconds of each game. Even losses were still SAINTS games. Y’all know that with DA at the helm, and the pathetic parade of QB mediocrity since Drew, that fire or even that rollercoaster ride just doesn’t happen. For some of us, it’s hard to get excited about an “Offensive Coordinator” as the answer to an overall mismanagement issue that goes all the way up to the top (ownership) of the pyramid, which is clearly out of touch with the exciting (if not winning) culture and atmosphere of what used to be THE SAINTS, and more importantly, THE FANS.

If some of us long time loyal Fans call it out, even to the point of absolute annoyance to the rest of you, it’s not personal. It’s not about us, or about you, it’s about THE SAINTS. The name calling happens when some on here turn your frustration with the team, into frustration with the Fans who are expressing frustration with a consistently disappointing organization. YOU (you know who you are) make it personal. Some of us are just pointing out the facts about what we all are witnessing. So if somebody takes a jab at “that sinner guy” or mapcow, and calls us “Haters” or goes through the trouble of posting gifs of cows sh*tting, we’re gonna smack you down, and remind you that THE SAINTS are the problem, not the (rightfully) disgruntled Fans.

I am sharing this right here on this “Oasis” thread, NOT to be negative, but to illustrate that first of all, it is ridiculous for grown men to be restricting and regulating the free expression of ideas to the point that y’all can have little sunshiny safe places to sing Kumbaya, and I find it fascinating how some of you can do the hopium thing with a clear conscience, but also, in preparation for this coming season, where some of is will be coming here to share what is REAL about THE SAINTS as the season unfolds, and we expect to be able to do that without the truly childish reactions from pipe-dreamers with rose colored glasses.

Be honest, a thread like this shouldn’t even have to exist, and wouldn’t, if our team was even half as stimulating as it was just a few short years ago.

LOOKING FORWARD to a new season… WHODAT.

You certainly know how to set the mood.