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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't know what you are looking at, but Carr has had a pretty solid career to date. He was saddled with historically bad defenses (the best of which was ranked 25!) for his whole Raiders ...
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Re: Potential 2025 Rebuild Math
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I think for myself and have my own belief system. The entire Drew Brees - Matt Ryan era I ragged on Matt Ryan relentlessly and got in fights with other Saints fans who felt Matt Ryan was a great QB, deeply respected him, and would be glad to have Matt Ryan on the Saints if we had to have any other QB but Brees. I felt that Matt Ryan was a mediocre QB whose pretty good enough stats didn't tell the whole story of how he couldn't win close games and couldn't get it done in the playoffs and just padded his stats in the regular season. I celebrated with a round of drinks every time the Falcons signed Matt Ryan to a big extension that made him one of the highest paid QBs in the league and sapped the Falcons salary cap and I truly wanted to see him retire a Falcon for life at 45 so that the Falcons could remain trapped in mediocrity forever. I called Matt Bryant the true leader of the Falcons, because the only times Matt Ryan was ever credited with doing anything clutch in the playoffs it was actually getting Bryant in range for a 55 yard kick. I said I would rather have Matt Bryant for $30 million or whatever than Matt Ryan because at least Bryant does not have negative value as a player who ruins draft position in the regular season then chokes in the big games and playoffs. Many Saints fans were deeply hurt by my criticism of Matt Ryan who they considered a very handsome and hard working young man with admirable virtues and character. I never said he was a bad person, just that he was a loser. My problem is, now, we have a Matt Ryan clone at QB. And my views remain consistent. I don't like excuses. Many great QBs have got to the playoffs with a bottom ranked defense. Brees did. Some have won it all with lousy defenses. And some QBs have made their defenses better by being great leaders on the field who inspire the entire team. Patrick Mahomes just won a ring with possibly the worst wide receiving corps in the league. He won another with the type of ankle injury that caused Cam Jordan to write off an entire $14 million season. Derek Carr is not great. He is good. And the best of that good comes when it matters least, and the least when it matters most. He racked up stats against bad teams and has not beat good teams with the Saints unless there QB was injured or our mathematical odds of making the playoffs were close to zero and it didnt matter. If I insulted Matt Ryan for over a decade and embraced the same qualities in Derek Carr I would be a hypocrite as far as I am concerned. And I have a right to that view and to be consistent in my views.
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Re: Potential 2025 Rebuild Math
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
“And the best of that good comes when it matters least, and the least when it matters most.”![]()
^^^ THAT RIGHT THERE. |
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Re: Potential 2025 Rebuild Math
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
Well good for you!
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