OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME

08-12-2024, 01:49 PM

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mapcow · 08-12-2024, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Excess Carrgo. Indeed.

Paint an "S" on top his helmet... Spectators from the nose bleed section of the dome and other stadiums, can say "look at that S Carr GO!

Or how about this one:

"Generic Derrik"

Hell, David Carr had a chance to brag on his brother this morning .... he chose not to. Speaks volumes

He be all about Bo Nix.... err Bronco QB, and understudy of can i Say it LOUDLY... Coach Sean Payton!!!

I will be comparing progress between Saint and Broncos... Heart lies with Saints, Head lies with Broncos

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 03:40 PM

saintsfan1976 · 08-12-2024, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled.

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

Sinner · 08-12-2024, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

“Let’s see what happens…”

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs.

It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value?

Sinner · 08-12-2024, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs.

It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value?

Derek Carr completed 2 of 6 passes for 12 yards, Alvin Kamara had two carries for three yards, which in your own words… is an evaluation of players’ basic abilities. So yeah.

K Major · 08-12-2024, 04:48 PM

I think it was either drunk Hebert or maybe Ross J but they pointed out Isaiah Foskey played most of the second half & didn't register a single tackle. From my tv, he looks slightly bigger & is stiff as a board. The effort part seems to be lacking.

And I'll quote someone here ... "he is playing against fifth stringers" but I'll give him the benefit by saying 2's and 3's.

Isiah Foskey & Penning are BOTH looking like terrible HIGH draft selections. The Saints are in no position to miss on high picks.

Payton Turner stood out though.

Halo · 08-12-2024, 04:52 PM

Yeah, this offensive line has holes in it. Really hasn't improved in 3 years. Penning appears to not be able to handle the NFL. Praying some dudes step up to the plate and/or a miracle.

Cruize · 08-12-2024, 05:10 PM

They had Ezirim taking reps at LT. Give him a shot a RT. That's what he played in college. Penning is just not good. Defenders get under his pads too easily. Terrible engagement and lean. No meanness or toughness. Young has played better than Penning. He's at least serviceable. Time to cut bait on Penning. Is what it is.

08-12-2024, 02:38 PM	#42
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by Sinner Excess Carrgo. Indeed. Paint an "S" on top his helmet... Spectators from the nose bleed section of the dome and other stadiums, can say "look at that S Carr GO! Or how about this one: "Generic Derrik" Hell, David Carr had a chance to brag on his brother this morning .... he chose not to. Speaks volumes He be all about Bo Nix.... err Bronco QB, and understudy of can i Say it LOUDLY... Coach Sean Payton!!! I will be comparing progress between Saint and Broncos... Heart lies with Saints, Head lies with Broncos
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08-12-2024, 03:40 PM	#43
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by Sinner Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled. I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? “Let’s see what happens…”
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08-12-2024, 04:29 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs. It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value?
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08-12-2024, 04:47 PM	#47
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs. It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value? Derek Carr completed 2 of 6 passes for 12 yards, Alvin Kamara had two carries for three yards, which in your own words… is an evaluation of players’ basic abilities. So yeah. K Major likes this.
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08-12-2024, 04:48 PM	#48
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME I think it was either drunk Hebert or maybe Ross J but they pointed out Isaiah Foskey played most of the second half & didn't register a single tackle. From my tv, he looks slightly bigger & is stiff as a board. The effort part seems to be lacking. And I'll quote someone here ... "he is playing against fifth stringers" but I'll give him the benefit by saying 2's and 3's. Isiah Foskey & Penning are BOTH looking like terrible HIGH draft selections. The Saints are in no position to miss on high picks. Payton Turner stood out though. cmike likes this.
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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Yeah, this offensive line has holes in it. Really hasn't improved in 3 years. Penning appears to not be able to handle the NFL. Praying some dudes step up to the plate and/or a miracle. saintsfan1976 likes this.

08-12-2024, 05:10 PM	#50
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME They had Ezirim taking reps at LT. Give him a shot a RT. That's what he played in college. Penning is just not good. Defenders get under his pads too easily. Terrible engagement and lean. No meanness or toughness. Young has played better than Penning. He's at least serviceable. Time to cut bait on Penning. Is what it is.
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