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leilung 08-28-2024 11:44 AM

Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
 
Trent Williams. Not knowing the up front cost...

Should we? Could we?

AsylumGuido 08-28-2024 01:13 PM

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Wow! I have been talking about the rarity of decent tackles in the league today and this is very telling. There was only one offensive tackle claimed off waivers out of 1,184 players released yesterday.

Demontrey Jacobs (LT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

Boston Saint 08-28-2024 01:34 PM

Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000033)
Wow! I have been talking about the rarity of decent tackles in the league today and this is very telling. There was only one offensive tackle claimed off waivers out of 1,184 players released yesterday.

Demontrey Jacobs (LT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

A player claimed off waivers is put on the 53 man roster, correct?

AsylumGuido 08-28-2024 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000039)
A player claimed off waivers is put on the 53 man roster, correct?

Correct.

Boston Saint 08-28-2024 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000033)
Wow! I have been talking about the rarity of decent tackles in the league today and this is very telling. There was only one offensive tackle claimed off waivers out of 1,184 players released yesterday.

Demontrey Jacobs (LT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

This site says 3 of 27 players claimed leaguewide are OT. Still not a lot.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...continues/amp/

AsylumGuido 08-28-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000042)
This site says 3 of 27 players claimed leaguewide are OT. Still not a lot.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...continues/amp/

Can't get that to load. I'm going off spotrac.com's transactions.


Julius Wood (S)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Tennessee (TEN)

Ali Gaye (DE)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Tennessee (TEN)

Royce Newman (G)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Tampa Bay (TB)

Brenden Bates (TE)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New York (NYJ)

Anthony Johnson Jr. (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New York (NYG)

Kene Nwangwu (RB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New Orleans (NO)

Zach Thomas (G)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

Eric Johnson (DT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

Demontrey Jacobs (LT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

Curtis Jacobs (ILB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by New England (NE)

Grant DuBose (WR)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Miami (MIA)

Cody Schrader (RB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Los Angeles (LAR)

Hassan Haskins (RB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Los Angeles (LAC)

Jonah Laulu (DT)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Las Vegas (LV)

Thomas Harper (S)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Las Vegas (LV)

Eric Scott Jr. (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Kansas City (KC)

Samuel Womack (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Indianapolis (IND)

Brayden Narveson (K)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Green Bay (GB)

Trevor Nowaske (ILB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Detroit (DET)

K.J. Henry (DE)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Cincinnati (CIN)

Jamie Sheriff (DE)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

Jon Rhattigan (ILB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

Jarrett Kingston (G)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

Keenan Isaac (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

Tariq Castro-Fields (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

Shemar Bartholomew (CB)
Aug 28, 2024 - Claimed off waivers by Carolina (CAR)

BakoSaint 08-28-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999881)
Bullcrap, Bako. LOL! Carr would never be tempted to stay injured. Man, your are really reaching now. Wacky is putting it mildly.

Lets say Carr’s season is a mixed bag and expectations are the Saints may cut him or ask him to take a pay cut. Then supposed that in the 12/15/24 game he sustains an injury that is diagnosed on 12/17 as requiring a surgery with a a 12 week estimated recovery time. If Carr has surgery immediately, spends xmas in a hospital, skips new years and valentines to rehab, and is highly dedicated to his physical therapy with no breaks he still wont get to play any more games during the year, but he may be able to pass a physical by 3/17/25, 12 weeks and 6 days later, in order to allow himself to potentially be cut and lose $30 million. However, if he gets a second opinion, has the procedure on 1/3/25 after holidays with family, and does a lot of physical therapy but takes a few days off for family, he can pass the physical in April before the draft and lock in $30 million guaranteed when he cant be cut on 3/17/25. What would anyone do? This is not a matter of character its a matter of putting family first and making smart decisions. And its part of why Carr and Wilson sat the last few games with their former teams.

AsylumGuido 08-28-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1000045)
Lets say Carr’s season is a mixed bag and expectations are the Saints may cut him or ask him to take a pay cut. Then supposed that in the 12/15/24 game he sustains an injury that is diagnosed on 12/17 as requiring a surgery with a a 12 week estimated recovery time. If Carr has surgery immediately, spends xmas in a hospital, skips new years and valentines to rehab, and is highly dedicated to his physical therapy with no breaks he still wont get to play any more games during the year, but he may be able to pass a physical by 3/17/25, 12 weeks and 6 days later, in order to allow himself to potentially be cut and lose $30 million. However, if he gets a second opinion, has the procedure on 1/3/25 after holidays with family, and does a lot of physical therapy but takes a few days off for family, he can pass the physical in April before the draft and lock in $30 million guaranteed when he cant be cut on 3/17/25. What would anyone do? This is not a matter of character its a matter of putting family first and making smart decisions. And its part of why Carr and Wilson sat the last few games with their former teams.

Be careful, Bako. You are likely to throw your back out with all that reaching. LOL!!!

MatthewT 08-28-2024 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1000045)
Lets say Carr’s season is a mixed bag and expectations are the Saints may cut him or ask him to take a pay cut. Then supposed that in the 12/15/24 game he sustains an injury that is diagnosed on 12/17 as requiring a surgery with a a 12 week estimated recovery time. If Carr has surgery immediately, spends xmas in a hospital, skips new years and valentines to rehab, and is highly dedicated to his physical therapy with no breaks he still wont get to play any more games during the year, but he may be able to pass a physical by 3/17/25, 12 weeks and 6 days later, in order to allow himself to potentially be cut and lose $30 million. However, if he gets a second opinion, has the procedure on 1/3/25 after holidays with family, and does a lot of physical therapy but takes a few days off for family, he can pass the physical in April before the draft and lock in $30 million guaranteed when he cant be cut on 3/17/25. What would anyone do? This is not a matter of character its a matter of putting family first and making smart decisions. And its part of why Carr and Wilson sat the last few games with their former teams.

I can guarantee if at any point the Saints decide Carr will either need to do a pay reduction or get cut, he will be put on the bench and not heard from again in 2024.

AsylumGuido 08-28-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 1000054)
I can guarantee if at any point the Saints decide Carr will either need to do a pay reduction or get cut, he will be put on the bench and not heard from again in 2024.

If that didn't happen under Carmichael's putrid playcalling I cannot envision any scenario under which it would happen this season with improved weapons and play design under Kubiak. :D


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