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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not as many as you might think. Especially at tackle. They had a whole segment on Moving the Chains a couple of weeks ago talking about the shortage of decent tackles in the league today and ...

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Old 08-23-2024, 02:27 PM   #1
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Not as many as you might think. Especially at tackle. They had a whole segment on Moving the Chains a couple of weeks ago talking about the shortage of decent tackles in the league today and the reasons why. They included the elimination of development in college due to limitations put in place by the NCAA and the recent trend of athletic big guys moving from o-line in high school and college to the more glamorous d-line. They did their usual 20 point scale of grading all teams' tackle corps and they said that scores were coming in lower than ever.

There were a small handful of teams in decent shape, but the vast majority were in, to differing degrees, the same dilemma we're facing. Some depth IS available, but the supply is greatly exceeded by the demand. A couple of teams may be willing to move some depth, but it ain't going to be cheap. We're going to have to outbid half the league. I hope we can, but I'm simply not counting on it. I hope I'm wrong. More accurately, I hope that all the guys on NFL Radio were wrong.
You've basically restated what I've been saying - someone will become available, possibly an upgrade, it will be above market price...

However!!

We cannot afford to sit on our hands and leave this glaring issue unresolved especially with our early schedule.
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:42 PM   #2
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You've basically restated what I've been saying - someone will become available, possibly an upgrade, it will be above market price...

However!!

We cannot afford to sit on our hands and leave this glaring issue unresolved especially with our early schedule.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bako on this, but I'm not sure I'd want to give up what it would take to get an actual upgrade if it's too costly. For example, a 2025 3rd rounder for a player that's a backup upgrade and would only play significant snaps due to injury.
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Old 08-23-2024, 06:55 PM   #3
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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bako on this, but I'm not sure I'd want to give up what it would take to get an actual upgrade if it's too costly. For example, a 2025 3rd rounder for a player that's a backup upgrade and would only play significant snaps due to injury.
Who makes that trade? Seriously.

I'm reading day 3 pick is most common.
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Old 08-24-2024, 11:44 AM   #4
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Who makes that trade? Seriously.

I'm reading day 3 pick is most common.
For most other positions, yes. For a roster worthy tackle, the single most in demand position in the league today? Over half the teams in the league are in the market. The Steelers, for example, now have both starting tackles (Jones - elbow, Fautanu - MCL) injured and are likely to be in the market. We at least have one.
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For most other positions, yes. For a roster worthy tackle, the single most in demand position in the league today? Over half the teams in the league are in the market. The Steelers, for example, now have both starting tackles (Jones - elbow, Fautanu - MCL) injured and are likely to be in the market. We at least have one.
However, the opposite could be said for quality head coaches. There is a shortage across the league and they at least have one. Many candidates with the traits of understanding the game, leadership skills, and charisma often choose the glamor of broadcasting and being able to put head coaches on their toes with tough questions over the thankless job of working their way up from the rank of assistant and fending off scrutiny from broadcasters. We are not the only team to be trotting out damaged goods retreads or failed projects at tackle or head coach.
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Old 08-24-2024, 12:02 PM   #6
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However, the opposite could be said for quality head coaches. There is a shortage across the league and they at least have one. Many candidates with the traits of understanding the game, leadership skills, and charisma often choose the glamor of broadcasting and being able to put head coaches on their toes with tough questions over the thankless job of working their way up from the rank of assistant and fending off scrutiny from broadcasters. We are not the only team to be trotting out damaged goods retreads or failed projects at tackle or head coach.
And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Everything.
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However, the opposite could be said for quality head coaches. There is a shortage across the league and they at least have one. Many candidates with the traits of understanding the game, leadership skills, and charisma often choose the glamor of broadcasting and being able to put head coaches on their toes with tough questions over the thankless job of working their way up from the rank of assistant and fending off scrutiny from broadcasters. We are not the only team to be trotting out damaged goods retreads or failed projects at tackle or head coach.
Well stated and clearly articulated. It’s very important to continue to drive the point home (for those who fail to see beyond the rosey lenses) that our damaged goods and retreads happen to occupy KEY POSITIONS, and until that gets squarely and bluntly addressed and corrected, this team will remain barely competitive, if not entirely irrelevant, indefinitely.
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