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So... who you got as next Saints HC ?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; You need to be really strict and accept it will be a up and down ride for a couple of years. But if fans see the bright side they will stick with younger players more than highly paid vets. No ...

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Old 10-18-2024, 04:32 PM   #1
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You need to be really strict and accept it will be a up and down ride for a couple of years. But if fans see the bright side they will stick with younger players more than highly paid vets. No signing players with injury flags, no signing vets on long/high paid contracts. You want players under 28 who have 3-5 years left minimum at a high level so they can lead and grown with young players.

Sell that to the best UDFA and players needing to make the step up from back ups to starters in free agency.


But most of all you need a front office that is scouting better and using a data department to find players that are underused,that will play beyond their pay. Data is being used in soccer now at quite a few clubs(Red Bull group,Liverpool,Brighton,probably doesn't interest many on here) once football started taking notes from Billy Beane and money ball ideas in baseball and its been a massive success at all them clubs. When you get a coach,data team and good scouting it leads to big improvements.

The Scouting department needs ripped up, who knows if its scouts not having a eye for talent or Ireland/Loomis,Allen ignoring them. But since that 2017 draft that should have set this team up for a decade this is the drafts

Marcus Davenport
Tre'quan Smith
Rick Leonard
Natrell Jamerson
Kamrin Moore
Boston Scott
Will Clapp


Eric McCoy
C.J Gardner Johnson
Saquan Hampton
Alize Mack
Kaden Ellis


Cesar Ruiz
Zack Baun
Adam Trautman
Tommy Stevens


Payton Turner
Pete Werner
Paulson Adebo
Ian Book
Landon Young
Kawaan Baker


Chris Olave
Trevor Penning
Alonte Taylor
D'Marco Jackson
Jordan Jackson


bryan Bresee
Isaiah Foskey
Kendre Miller
Nick Saldiveri
Jake Haener
Jordan Howden
A.T Perry

That is very likely in the 5 worst drafting teams since

You can't be at the cap limit and not having the cap space to be very aggressive and drafting this badly

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Old 10-18-2024, 07:33 PM   #2
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What happens if we bottom out this season? Do you think DA gets a Mulligan?
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Old 10-21-2024, 10:06 AM   #3
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This won't be a easy fix.

1 - need to start hitting home runs in the draft
2 - get that cap in order
3 - over paying OLDER players needs to stop
4 - cutting AK saves roughly 17M. Ramz 6M, Cam J 3M etc.
5 - continue to rebuild in those trenches on BOTH sides.

Just about everyone needs to be a candidate for a possible trade.

That's a tall task for any new Head coach to over come. I'd start looking at someone from Dan Campbell's coaching (Johnson, Glenn).

Saints need a real plan, not a quick fix.
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Old 10-21-2024, 02:39 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
This won't be a easy fix.

1 - need to start hitting home runs in the draft
2 - get that cap in order
3 - over paying OLDER players needs to stop
4 - cutting AK saves roughly 17M. Ramz 6M, Cam J 3M etc.
5 - continue to rebuild in those trenches on BOTH sides.

Just about everyone needs to be a candidate for a possible trade.

That's a tall task for any new Head coach to over come. I'd start looking at someone from Dan Campbell's coaching (Johnson, Glenn).

Saints need a real plan, not a quick fix.
Quit drafting these fringe school project players and get more proven SEC players!
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:28 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Quit drafting these fringe school project players and get more proven SEC players!

The one that haunts me is the 2nd round Foskey pick. Could've had safety Brian Branch. I was watching the DET@MIN game yesterday and he's outstanding. Reminds me a little of our Sammy Knight from back in the day.
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Old 10-21-2024, 04:22 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
The one that haunts me is the 2nd round Foskey pick. Could've had safety Brian Branch. I was watching the DET@MIN game yesterday and he's outstanding. Reminds me a little of our Sammy Knight from back in the day.
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Remember how crushed Brian was when he didn’t get the 1st round call in that draft? Instead of pouting & heading back home, all he did was come back on Day 2, wait for his name to be called, shake hands & tell the world he is grateful for the opportunity.

Says a LOT about his character. And you’re right, he’s a baller for Detroit.
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:06 PM   #7
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Short and long answer… Dennis Allen.
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Now that this thread is more relevant, who's stepping up to be a candidate to be HC? There's only 32 teams... will someone of quality want to come here with our crazy cap situation?

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Ryans in Houston did it in short order

So did Dan in Detroit
That's after years of cellar dwelling. We're going to have to get there for a couple of years to clear this cap situation.
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