So... who you got as next Saints HC ?

lee909 · 10-17-2024, 11:10 PM

You would have to be a idiot to take over next year.
You either have to completely decimate the roster and have no money to replace players or yet again extend players way past their best or worth. You want to be the guy after the next guy unless you are told and Loomis says you have the job 2/3 years no matter what. But that would leave Mickey having to admit he has screwed up this roster management beyond repair

This is what you end up with after the constant keep the band together for one more try. Had they cut their losses then they could have had a way out. There was never a plan for post Brees so they just kept trying

Sinner · 10-17-2024, 11:21 PM

Short and long answer: Dennis Allen.

keithday123 · 10-17-2024, 11:26 PM

Without question Brian Flores. I wanted him when they decided on Allen. Disciplinarian in the mold of Tomlin. Get him here as soon as possible

turbo_dog · 10-17-2024, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

OC: Kubiak
DC: Saleh
ST: Rizzi
HC: Aaron Glenn

I thought I was going to write here and be the first to suggest Aaron Glen. Then it was almost the first post.

OldMaid · 10-18-2024, 02:31 AM

Bellicheck, NO.

lee909 · 10-18-2024, 02:45 AM

Nobody up and coming or a big name like Bellicheck will touch the job. $81ml over the cap and look at the highest earners and dead money vs cap savings

With 6 picks next year
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 6
Round 6

Way over the cap with a injury probe, over paid roster than you likely have to stick with and few picks to change things up.

SmashMouth · 10-18-2024, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Nobody up and coming or a big name like Bellicheck will touch the job. $81ml over the cap and look at the highest earners and dead money vs cap savings

With 6 picks next year
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 6
Round 6

Way over the cap with a injury probe, over paid roster than you likely have to stick with and few picks to change things up.

Not so sure... think about it. Endure the pain for a year or two with cap cleansing attrition, the benefit of which is high draft picks for at least a couple of years. If you can continue to find gems in UDFA, it can be done.

Saints need a HC the players will respect and listen to. The johny-come-latelys are mostly unproven. Might get lucky, might not.

I remember SP conveying a story about Parcells and staying too long with a certain franchise. The win now culture has shown us the demise of longer tenured coaches with one team, Tomlin notwithstanding. It's the old argument: Is it the coach or the HOF QB? Probably a little of both. Andy Reid says hello in KC after all these years in Philly.

I say let's get our own Andy Reid in bringing BB here. The man just knows and understands football. And he wants to continue coaching. He loves it.

stickman · 10-18-2024, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by keithday123

Without question Brian Flores. I wanted him when they decided on Allen. Disciplinarian in the mold of Tomlin. Get him here as soon as possible

I like Flores too. I think Miami ran him off a little early.

NOLA54 · 10-18-2024, 02:33 PM

Maybe they should get out of the football business altogether.

spkb25 · 10-18-2024, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Nobody up and coming or a big name like Bellicheck will touch the job. $81ml over the cap and look at the highest earners and dead money vs cap savings

With 6 picks next year
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 6
Round 6

Way over the cap with a injury probe, over paid roster than you likely have to stick with and few picks to change things up.

The Loomis effect

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: So... who you got as next Saints HC ? Originally Posted by lee909 Nobody up and coming or a big name like Bellicheck will touch the job. $81ml over the cap and look at the highest earners and dead money vs cap savings With 6 picks next year Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 6 Round 6 Way over the cap with a injury probe, over paid roster than you likely have to stick with and few picks to change things up. Not so sure... think about it. Endure the pain for a year or two with cap cleansing attrition, the benefit of which is high draft picks for at least a couple of years. If you can continue to find gems in UDFA, it can be done. Saints need a HC the players will respect and listen to. The johny-come-latelys are mostly unproven. Might get lucky, might not. I remember SP conveying a story about Parcells and staying too long with a certain franchise. The win now culture has shown us the demise of longer tenured coaches with one team, Tomlin notwithstanding. It's the old argument: Is it the coach or the HOF QB? Probably a little of both. Andy Reid says hello in KC after all these years in Philly. I say let's get our own Andy Reid in bringing BB here. The man just knows and understands football. And he wants to continue coaching. He loves it. iceshack149 and Thirty3 like this.

10-18-2024, 02:08 PM	#28
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,680	Re: So... who you got as next Saints HC ? Originally Posted by keithday123 Without question Brian Flores. I wanted him when they decided on Allen. Disciplinarian in the mold of Tomlin. Get him here as soon as possible I like Flores too. I think Miami ran him off a little early.

10-18-2024, 02:33 PM	#29
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: So... who you got as next Saints HC ? Maybe they should get out of the football business altogether.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: So... who you got as next Saints HC ? Originally Posted by lee909 Nobody up and coming or a big name like Bellicheck will touch the job. $81ml over the cap and look at the highest earners and dead money vs cap savings With 6 picks next year Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 6 Round 6 Way over the cap with a injury probe, over paid roster than you likely have to stick with and few picks to change things up. The Loomis effect