Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves

spkb25 · 03-22-2025, 08:16 AM

Brandin Cooks for 13 million is not going to help the Saints. How are you able to live with such a **** front office?

saintsfan1976 · 03-22-2025, 08:56 AM

Don't think of this as singular moves. Instead think of them as building a roster of offensive weapons that will stress any defense with mismatches and overloading the secondary as well as LBs.

Plus Cooks may be instrumental in helping Moore install/teach aspects of his offense to the WR room.

K Major · 03-22-2025, 09:44 AM

Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.

BakoSaint · 03-22-2025, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.

I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous.

Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks.

saintsfan1976 · 03-24-2025, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous.

Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks.

Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen.

BakoSaint · 03-24-2025, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen.

We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with George Halas and Bear Bryant.

saintsfan1976 · 03-23-2025, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.

Disagree brother.

While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff.

No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster.

Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been:

'21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td)

'22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td)

'23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game.

'24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td)

So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time?

IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers.

I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be.

WW_Who_Dat · 03-23-2025, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Disagree brother.

While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff.

No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster.

Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been:

'21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td)

'22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td)

'23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game.

'24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td)

So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time?

IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers.

I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be.

More context to this signing in this video;

https://youtu.be/SGEp0csxHb8?si=2q7U3QojG1kCWKuh

Crusader · 03-22-2025, 10:11 AM

Don't like the Cooks move one bit. Doesn't make sense from any angle. Small, slower, known to be a whiner. Nothing to like.
I hope he proves me wrong.

TheOak · 03-23-2025, 12:44 PM

Cooks has been with five teams in 10 years.

Being good enough to want but not good enough to stay is not organizational it’s personal. Let’s not forget his departure from both the Saints and Texan’s were rumored to be locker room problems with him.

Maybe it’s possible that 5 teams, including the Saints, got it wrong…

03-22-2025, 09:44 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season. Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept. This is a nothingburger. Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade. Crusader likes this.

03-22-2025, 08:14 PM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,415	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by K Major Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season. Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept. This is a nothingburger. Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade. I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous. Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks. Sinner likes this.
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03-24-2025, 08:31 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous. Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks. Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen.

03-24-2025, 10:24 AM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,415	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with George Halas and Bear Bryant.
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03-23-2025, 07:23 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by K Major Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season. Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept. This is a nothingburger. Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade. Disagree brother. While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff. No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster. Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been: '21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td) '22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td) '23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game. '24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td) So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time? IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers. I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be.

03-22-2025, 08:16 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Brandin Cooks for 13 million is not going to help the Saints. How are you able to live with such a **** front office? BakoSaint likes this.

03-22-2025, 08:56 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Don't think of this as singular moves. Instead think of them as building a roster of offensive weapons that will stress any defense with mismatches and overloading the secondary as well as LBs. Plus Cooks may be instrumental in helping Moore install/teach aspects of his offense to the WR room.

03-23-2025, 01:01 PM	#8
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Disagree brother. While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff. No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster. Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been: '21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td) '22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td) '23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game. '24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td) So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time? IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers. I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be. More context to this signing in this video; https://youtu.be/SGEp0csxHb8?si=2q7U3QojG1kCWKuh

03-22-2025, 10:11 AM	#9
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Don't like the Cooks move one bit. Doesn't make sense from any angle. Small, slower, known to be a whiner. Nothing to like. I hope he proves me wrong.

03-23-2025, 12:44 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Cooks has been with five teams in 10 years. Being good enough to want but not good enough to stay is not organizational it’s personal. Let’s not forget his departure from both the Saints and Texan’s were rumored to be locker room problems with him. Maybe it’s possible that 5 teams, including the Saints, got it wrong…