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K Major 03-11-2025 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 1008375)
They may still draft Warren and use a good bit of two TE sets. It would definitely help in the passing game

So at #9?

He’s not making it out of the first round.

Juwan doesn’t move the needle for me but oh well.

Mr.Riaton 03-11-2025 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008376)
So at #9?

He’s not making it out of the first round.

Juwan doesn’t move the needle for me but oh well.

Yea it would have to be, unless they trade down and grab him later in the first. He’s not my top choice at 9 for sure tbh.
I think we should wait and grab Taylor or Arroyo at the top of the third if either one is there

jnormand 03-11-2025 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 1008375)
They may still draft Warren and use a good bit of two TE sets. It would definitely help in the passing game

So would having a good offensive line. I want trench warriors. I sure hope we don’t draft TE at #9. Trade down and get some dawgs.

SmashMouth 03-12-2025 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008371)
Juwan is okay I guess ... but I was hoping we would keep the TE position a little clearer to potentially land Warren from Penn St. We still could draft Warren but it makes less sense now.

We have the rookie from last year too, Holker.

saintsfan1976 03-12-2025 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008376)
So at #9?

He’s not making it out of the first round.

Juwan doesn’t move the needle for me but oh well.

He hasn't in the past but you have to think Kellen has seen enough on film to project a role for him.

Mr.Riaton 03-12-2025 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1008378)
So would having a good offensive line. I want trench warriors. I sure hope we don’t draft TE at #9. Trade down and get some dawgs.

Agreed. There’s trench guys throughout the draft that look good though, so if we go with a luxury pick for 9, it won’t be the worst thing. That being said, I’d love OL at 9 if we stay put. Booker or Banks would be solid there.
I also really like Jalon Walker with our first pic. I think he would be a great piece for our new 3-4 look. Plenty of solid o and d line players in rounds 2-4

AsylumGuido 03-12-2025 08:51 AM

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Free agent guard maybe?


K Major 03-12-2025 09:07 AM

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Any updates on Taysom Hill?

He needs to take a pay cut or become a June 1st cut to save 10M.

Keeping him at his current number when he may not even play (injury recovery) this season is nuts.

AsylumGuido 03-12-2025 09:21 AM

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Juwan Johnson - $30.75 million, 3 year, $11 million signing bonus, $21.25 million guaranteed. 2025 cap hit $5.245 million.

vpheughan 03-12-2025 09:48 AM

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Everything starts at the top, and the owner of the team must know what it takes to win, be willing to listen and not turn back when things get rough. Make no mistake about it: A coach or general manager who takes over a team that has won in the past can influence the current group by showcasing the franchise's previous glory as a model.

The quarterback -- The most important position on the field is the best place to start if a coach or GM wants to change the culture of a losing team. o really create long-term change, a coach and GM must fill the roster with good players who also are great men. It doesn't take too many personnel mistakes or bad apples in the locker room to drag a once-proud franchise to the bottom. The coach and, more importantly, the GM must be able to make the hard decision that appears cold on the surface but is the right thing to do in the long run. Cutting a player, firing a coach or dismissing a scout isn't easy, but the smart teams pull the trigger when necessary. The locker room is where teams can be made or dismantled. There's no fooling the players when there's a weak link in the locker room or a player interested in self-promotion over what's best for the team.

A bit of luck -- Every team needs some luck. Great preparation is more reliable than luck, but if something fortunate happens -- like getting a borderline call or an opponent missing an easy field-goal attempt -- it doesn't hurt.

AsylumGuido 03-12-2025 10:04 AM

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leilung 03-12-2025 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008356)
I'm not a fan. :confused:

Not at that pricetag and length of contract. Honestly, I really don't think Loomis lives in the same reality as everyone else in the NFL.

K Major 03-12-2025 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 1008387)

The coach and, more importantly, the GM must be able to make the hard decision that appears cold on the surface but is the right thing to do in the long run. Cutting a player, firing a coach or dismissing a scout isn't easy, but the smart teams pull the trigger when necessary. The locker room is where teams can be made or dismantled. There's no fooling the players when there's a weak link in the locker room or a player interested in self-promotion over what's best for the team.

Truth.

See Philly. Fired then DC (Sean Desai) cut Darius Slay, traded Ceedy Deuce, allowed Josh Sweat to get over paid elsewhere. Even Sirianni was on the "hot seat" to start the 2024 season :p

GM Roseman & Lurie want results. No one is ever safe there.

Hopefully Coach Moore brings some of that mindset & philosophy to New Orleans. It's not gonna happen in 1 year though.

AsylumGuido 03-12-2025 01:12 PM

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Just thinking here that given what Cam Jordan has been posting the idea that we would be moving to a 3-4 may not be a given. One would expect that Cam has at least spoken to Brandon Staley about his plans moving forward. Cam is clearly thinking the same 4-2-5 base that we've had recently. The retention of the players we had thus far supports that thinking. I'm hoping Staley makes the best use of what we have available instead of forcing them into a specific scheme

iceshack149 03-12-2025 08:28 PM

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Cameron Jordan, a defensive end for the New Orleans Saints, had 20 solo tackles, 23 assists, 2.0 sacks, and 1 fumble recovery in 17 games in 2023
Cameron Jordan had 18 solo tackles, 16 assists, 4.0 sacks and 1 interception in 17 games in 2024. ... 4.0 sacks and 1 interception in 17 games in 2024.
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Jordan and the Saints agreed to a re-structured contract Wednesday, Mike Triplett of NewOrleans.Football reports.
[https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/fo...y-with-saints/

I love Cam Jordan but I'm ready for some fresh faces for the 2025 season.

neugey 03-12-2025 09:19 PM

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My goodness. We've restructured everybody and their dog. Feels like Mickey is going to keep doing this until we're at a real breaking point with the cap, at which time he'll decide to retire.

jnormand 03-12-2025 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008404)
Cameron Jordan, a defensive end for the New Orleans Saints, had 20 solo tackles, 23 assists, 2.0 sacks, and 1 fumble recovery in 17 games in 2023
Cameron Jordan had 18 solo tackles, 16 assists, 4.0 sacks and 1 interception in 17 games in 2024. ... 4.0 sacks and 1 interception in 17 games in 2024.

[https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/fo...y-with-saints/

I love Cam Jordan but I'm ready for some fresh faces for the 2025 season.

Same bro. Love Cam. But seriously the defense wasn’t anything to write home about last year. Now we basically have the same guys and a few decent depth guys.

“Add in Isaiah Foskey….” As what Cam? The guy who will go get snacks at half time? Lol.

SmashMouth 03-13-2025 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008397)
Truth.

See Philly. Fired then DC (Sean Desai) cut Darius Slay, traded Ceedy Deuce, allowed Josh Sweat to get over paid elsewhere. Even Sirianni was on the "hot seat" to start the 2024 season :p

GM Roseman & Lurie want results. No one is ever safe there.

Hopefully Coach Moore brings some of that mindset & philosophy to New Orleans. It's not gonna happen in 1 year though.

Tough to say that when we now know he took the Saints gig having to accept Carr as QB1.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 10:52 AM

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I really like this move.


AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1008407)
Same bro. Love Cam. But seriously the defense wasn’t anything to write home about last year. Now we basically have the same guys and a few decent depth guys.

“Add in Isaiah Foskey….” As what Cam? The guy who will go get snacks at half time? Lol.

I really think the players were not used to their strength's under the distracted Dennis Allen. I heard today that Staley does indeed to build the defense around the strengths of the players on the roster instead of trying to plug them into a specific scheme. That explains Cam's mention of a four man front as opposed to a 3-4 which many just assumed. Cam has also said he has indeed met with the staff. I for one believe Jordan has some gas left in the tank. The problem was that he was not in there, not by his choice, when those stat situations were at hand.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:07 AM

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The Saints are becoming a destination again.



AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:08 AM

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Kellen is bringing in proven beef for the offense. Watch for the improved running game.


AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:11 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:12 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:38 AM

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More much needed depth! And another LSU player!


AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:43 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:56 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 11:57 AM

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keithday123 03-13-2025 01:01 PM

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I’ve seen and heard it all now. Seems like the past 6-7 years all I have heard from the media is how the Saints are in cap hell and it’s time to pay the piper. Well guess what someone in that organization has it figured out and we just keep spending money and fielding a team. Like it or not we are one good draft haul away from being viable again and this is the draft to do it in. Still not sold Carr will be our QB this year though

AsylumGuido 03-13-2025 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 1008422)
I’ve seen and heard it all now. Seems like the past 6-7 years all I have heard from the media is how the Saints are in cap hell and it’s time to pay the piper. Well guess what someone in that organization has it figured out and we just keep spending money and fielding a team. Like it or not we are one good draft haul away from being viable again and this is the draft to do it in. Still not sold Carr will be our QB this year though

Who other than Carr could be QB for us this year? Rattler and Haener both look like deer in the headlights out there. Besides Aaron Rodgers there's no veteran free agent that's as good as Carr. I don't see a rookie that could step in given the team is still in a win now mode. You have anyone in mind beating him out?

iceshack149 03-13-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008423)
Who other than Carr could be QB for us this year? Rattler and Haener both look like deer in the headlights out there. Besides Aaron Rodgers there's no veteran free agent that's as good as Carr. I don't see a rookie that could step in given the team is still in a win now mode. You have anyone in mind beating him out?

The Saints should be in a rebuild mode.

Sinner 03-13-2025 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008424)
The Saints should be in a rebuild mode.

That shoulda woulda coulda started years ago, but here we aren’t.

jnormand 03-13-2025 06:16 PM

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I just think the team needs a reset. A reset on roster. A reset on cap. I’m all for them going in and trying to kick some ass. But eventually teams need to rebuild and reload.

keithday123 03-13-2025 06:26 PM

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I didn’t say Carr wasn’t best option but it sure seems odd that once the restructuring of his contract was greenlit by Mickey that it should’ve given some assurance to Carr to come out and say something or show a little excitement about the season, but at this point crickets. Maybe the trade is still being shopped and Nola has decided to go QB in first round or maybe some other move. Either way sure seems quiet on the Carr front

Danno 03-13-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008424)
The Saints should be in a rebuild mode.

You can't rebuild when you keep missing on draft picks. Its what forces us to add free-agents instead of rebuilding through the draft. It also drives up our salary cap number.

We have too many players on 2nd and 3rd contracts. We need to start hitting on the cheaper rookies. Only then can we rebuild with cheaper younger players.

Mr.Riaton 03-13-2025 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 1008431)
You can't rebuild when you keep missing on draft picks. Its what forces us to add free-agents instead of rebuilding through the draft. It also drives up our salary cap number.

We have too many players on 2nd and 3rd contracts. We need to start hitting on the cheaper rookies. Only then can we rebuild with cheaper younger players.

And some of the players we hit on we let go because of I assume lack of quality coaching to develop them or bad scheme fit, or possibly both, just to watch them go on to be great players for other teams.

I’m hoping for better draft results with this coaching staff we have in place. And please pick a scheme and draft players to fit it.

K Major 03-13-2025 07:20 PM

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Again, Jeff Ireland’s name doesn’t come up enough.

Outside of 2017, his draft team has done a meh job.

The only way this franchise is going to improve is by drafting better.

CheramieIII 03-13-2025 08:01 PM

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I really think the Saints are eyeing Rattler to takeover at QB!

iceshack149 03-13-2025 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 1008430)
I didn’t say Carr wasn’t best option but it sure seems odd that once the restructuring of his contract was greenlit by Mickey that it should’ve given some assurance to Carr to come out and say something or show a little excitement about the season, but at this point crickets. Maybe the trade is still being shopped and Nola has decided to go QB in first round or maybe some other move. Either way sure seems quiet on the Carr front

I actually think that there's a chance a Carr trade is in the works. I know the math isn't favorable but Carr doesn't appear to want to be in New Orleans and the organization knows what most of the fans think of Carr.

Todd McShay suggests Derek Carr may still move on from the Saints in 2025
john sigler, saints wire
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/tod...232657090.html

AsylumGuido 03-14-2025 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 1008430)
I didn’t say Carr wasn’t best option but it sure seems odd that once the restructuring of his contract was greenlit by Mickey that it should’ve given some assurance to Carr to come out and say something or show a little excitement about the season, but at this point crickets. Maybe the trade is still being shopped and Nola has decided to go QB in first round or maybe some other move. Either way sure seems quiet on the Carr front

Sure it's crickets. All the hype is currently on players getting signed, being traded, being cut, being extended, or retiring. Carr's status is status quo. As far as he and the team are concerned nothing has changed other than completely expected accounting.


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