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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Contract numbers aside, I still don't get the negativity that Carr "stinks" or that he's sure to get injured. Coming into last season he started 159 out of 163 possible starts. Last season's 10 games was the only time he ...

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Old 02-27-2025, 10:23 AM   #1
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Contract numbers aside, I still don't get the negativity that Carr "stinks" or that he's sure to get injured. Coming into last season he started 159 out of 163 possible starts. Last season's 10 games was the only time he started less than 15 in his career. As for stinking, he had a 3 to 1 TD to interception percentage which is always respectable. His passer rating and completion percentage were both top ten and his sack percentage was the best in the league. All of this with what many here would argue was one of the worst offensive lines in the entire league while missing key pieces at other important offensive positions (see Olave and Shaheed).
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Contract numbers aside, I still don't get the negativity that Carr "stinks" or that he's sure to get injured. Coming into last season he started 159 out of 163 possible starts. Last season's 10 games was the only time he started less than 15 in his career. As for stinking, he had a 3 to 1 TD to interception percentage which is always respectable. His passer rating and completion percentage were both top ten and his sack percentage was the best in the league. All of this with what many here would argue was one of the worst offensive lines in the entire league while missing key pieces at other important offensive positions (see Olave and Shaheed).
At least you’re honest when you say, you still don’t get it.
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At least you’re honest when you say, you still don’t get it.
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That makes one of us.
Definitely. You are honestly the only one of us on here that JUST DON’T GET IT.
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Definitely. You are honestly the only one of us on here that JUST DON’T GET IT.
Oh, I get it. I just know it is what it is and I make the best of it, as I do everything. It's all in how you choose to look at things. If somehow another Drew Brees or Tom Brady walked onto the scene I'd be volunteering to help load Carr's moving van, but that's not happening.

I want exactly what Kellen Moore wants, to put the best viable option out on the field today and that is Carr given what we currently have on our roster today. I would dance with joy if we were to draft a QB that turns out to be starter quality and could take over in 2026.

What you are wanting and *****ing about is something that is not available. It's you that does not get that.


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Oh, I get it. I just know it is what it is and I make the best of it, as I do everything. It's all in how you choose to look at things. If somehow another Drew Brees or Tom Brady walked onto the scene I'd be volunteering to help load Carr's moving van, but that's not happening.

I want exactly what Kellen Moore wants, to put the best viable option out on the field today and that is Carr given what we currently have on our roster today. I would dance with joy if we were to draft a QB that turns out to be starter quality and could take over in 2026.

What you are wanting and *****ing about is something that is not available. It's you that does not get that.

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At least you’re honest when you say, you still don’t get it.
Oh yeah, and he quit on the team in December last year, again. Wonder where he is spending all the money he won from his bet against vegas
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Contract numbers aside, I still don't get the negativity that Carr "stinks" or that he's sure to get injured. Coming into last season he started 159 out of 163 possible starts. Last season's 10 games was the only time he started less than 15 in his career. As for stinking, he had a 3 to 1 TD to interception percentage which is always respectable. His passer rating and completion percentage were both top ten and his sack percentage was the best in the league. All of this with what many here would argue was one of the worst offensive lines in the entire league while missing key pieces at other important offensive positions (see Olave and Shaheed).
But you can't put the contract numbers aside. He's insanely over paid. His career 169 starts include just one playoff game—and no wins. His 14-13 record over the last two years (77-92 overall) and zero postseason success scream mediocrity, not the clutch gene of a top QB.

Contract aside, the $40 million cap hit in 2025 is an albatross on the team's neck. Yes, the line and injuries hurt, but a $37.5 million-a-year QB should overcome that, not just survive. Carr’s not stinking by raw stats alone, but he’s not leading us to glory either—he shrivels when it counts, and his paycheck demands more. We need a QB who can win big games and inspire, not just pad stats behind a broken line.
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But you can't put the contract numbers aside. He's insanely over paid. His career 169 starts include just one playoff game—and no wins. His 14-13 record over the last two years (77-92 overall) and zero postseason success scream mediocrity, not the clutch gene of a top QB.

Contract aside, the $40 million cap hit in 2025 is an albatross on the team's neck. Yes, the line and injuries hurt, but a $37.5 million-a-year QB should overcome that, not just survive. Carr’s not stinking by raw stats alone, but he’s not leading us to glory either—he shrivels when it counts, and his paycheck demands more. We need a QB who can win big games and inspire, not just pad stats behind a broken line.
No. Carr isn't a QB that can take a poor team on his shoulders and take them to consistent wins. There's only a handful of those in the league today. His contract puts him in the middle of the pack in current contracts. With the Raiders he never had a defense that ranked above the bottom four in the league. With the Saints he's had nothing but what could be considered one of the worst offensive lines in the league and historic rashes of injuries across the spectrum.

And, yes, I'd love to have one of those handful of elite QB's. And a great offensive line. And a team full of healthy players. But we don't now. Regardless of what Carr is getting paid right now I believe he's the best we have available. And I can see why Kellen Moore thinks the same. Moore doesn't care about contracts or how much a player is getting paid. All he wants to do is put the best players available currently on the field now. That's his job as a head coach.

I am all for drafting another QB and hoping he can be a better option sooner than later. Neither Haener or Rattler have shown any signs of being that answer yet.

Are there better QB's out there? Yes, but not available, that's for sure.

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No. Carr isn't a QB that can take a poor team on his shoulders and take them to consistent wins. There's only a handful of those in the league today. His contract puts him in the middle of the pack in current contracts. With the Raiders he never had a defense that ranked above the bottom four in the league. With the Saints he's had nothing but what could be considered one of the worst offensive lines in the league and historic rashes of injuries across the spectrum.

And, yes, I'd love to have one of those handful of elite QB's. And a great offensive line. And a team full of healthy players. But we don't now. Regardless of what Carr is getting paid right now I believe he's the best we have available. And I can see why Kellen Moore thinks the same. Moore doesn't care about contracts or how much a player is getting paid. All he wants to do is put the best players available currently on the field now. That's his job as a head coach.

I am all for drafting another QB and hoping he can be a better option sooner than later. Neither Haener or Rattler have shown any signs of being that answer yet.

Are there better QB's out there? Yes, but not available, that's for sure.
I will concede that Carr may be our best option at the moment. Despite your attempt to defend him and his contract with stats, he does NOT deserve to be paid his current deal and IMO should take a pay cut that the team can in turn use to build out it's roster.

If he doesn't like that, try making more money on the open market buddy boy.
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