Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury
 

People who still believe in Carr at this point believe in fairies, fairies who wear way too much eye liner.

The best solution to Carr is to keep him on the roster since he is already paid for, but never put him on the field in play or practice again because the injury risk is too high.

Then in the next offseason give him two choices:

1. Reduce his 2026 salary to $1 million and increase his 2027 salary to $250 million non-guaranteed, which becomes fully guaranteed on March 20. Saints release Carr with a post-June-1 tag, but because he reduced his salary for the current year to $1 million, much of the cap relief is immediate. But because of the $250 million trigger, Carr know that the Saints will cut him, so he doesn't have to worry about being held hostage with the $1 million salary. I can't find exact rules of how everything works but I believe this is legal and would offer ideal cap relief in 2026.

2. If Carr refuses this offer, there is no reason to use the post-June-1 tag on Carr, because unlike past years there is no guarantee to be avoided with the early cut, and there is no immediate cap relief with a post-June-1 tag until its actually June 1, so the Saints wait until its actually after June 1 to cut Carr, which defers much of the dead cap to 2027. Ideally the Saints wait until late August. This effectively ends Carr's career as he misses free agency, training camp, and preseason. This is why Carr would likely have to accept the previous offer.

Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury
 

This pleases me.

Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury
 

Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury
 

You can't win in a game of "Punch Out" if you can't get past 'Joe Glass'!
(If you're an OG, you understand the reference!)

In other words, you can't win with this guy. tiem to cut bait. Apparently, some guys are floating Stetson Bennet from the Rams for a 3rd. any good rumors?

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3rd is robbery. Stetson isn't worth anything more than a 7th and that's kind.

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Apparently the Saints were fully aware of this situation all along. At this point everything is still nothing more than speculation. Saying that "shoulder surgery" is only a "consideration" tells me it isn't major. Shoulder injuries are defined by a very wide spectrum. I heard the mention of a possible labral related injury from somewhere the last couple of days. That can be handled by a minor scope procedure or can even be played through.

https://sunnyvaleorthopedics.com/wp-...-Injuries.webp

Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury
 

My problem with this is that you are trusting the same people who kept you completely in the dark with this to suddenly be fully transparent. Mickey Loomis has a long history of delaying and then understating injury news to soften the blow before revealing the full extent. You are just a PR pawn for him to manipulate by telling you whatever he thinks you can handle and not telling you whatever he thinks you can't handle to keep you on the hook for his next round of kool aid. Remember when there was cause to be optimistic about Ram's recovery? And MT? And when many other players missed more time than expected? And what about the Pelicans?

Given Mickey's history, it would be more reasonable to assume Carr is going to miss at least a major chunk of the season, probably all, or they wouldn't be softening the blow to prepare you for this. Now perhaps as some say the Saints didn't leak this, which means they are even more intent to keep you in the dark altogether. But I still think the Saints may have leaked it. If their intent is to soften the blow and then reveal the full extent later, leaking rather than announcing the injury allows them to more effectively soften the blow. If they announce it in a press conference, they immediately face followup questions where many details come out at once and the blow isn't softened. They can't explain announcing it without any details. If they leak it, they can have the bad news trickle out where we don't know which arm or what injury, then its apparently a labrum, but maybe there is cause for optimism, but maybe there isn't, and they can slow roll the bad news while acting pissed about the leak and refraining from comment.

Not only do I expect this injury is serious, given the Saints history I expect there are other serious injuries that are being hidden from us for now. For example McCoy is a major part of the offense and has missed a lot time, and I doubt the Saints would give us the full picture of any long term issues he has. Eventually that situation could play out as Ram 2.0. Also, I favor moving on from Taysom Hill, and I am encouraged at present that he has not been restructured, but for those who are invested in him don't be surprised if news on his injury recovery and contract status, or lack of recovery and cut, comes at a strategic time to soften the PR blow, not at an early time to allow you as a fan to objectively evaluate the Saints roster situation for the upcoming season. Probably it could make sense to announce the situation with Hill after the draft when fans are excited about a draft pick, but if Loomis needs a PR lift now that may not stop him from restructuring Hill now and writing off the $10 million loss later.

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So why restructure his contract if the Saints knew about it?

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The problem with restructuring the contract was that it guaranteed Carr his full salary. But if the Saints had not restructured the contract, Carr's salary would have guaranteed a few days later anyway. Either way the $40 million for Carr in 2025 was going to be a sunk cost. The only out was to cut Carr before the guarantee triggered and before the restructure. But if Carr was hurt due to a football injury, he could not be cut because he could not pass a physical. So the Saints may have been screwed. The thing about Loomis is that he loves getting bent over and screwed but he likes to keep it on the down low. So he tells everyone this lousy employee wearing all the eye liner and making twice what he is worth is the future of the company, when really he is just a pretty face who has Mickey bent over his desk.

Stetson Bennett is a joke. Imagine if AJ McCarron really liked to binge drink. At this point Bennett is a camp body who could possibly make an interesting mediocre third string QB for some teams local media. Nobody is getting more than a conditional 7th round pick swap for Bennett and he is no teams answer without an unprecedented career turnaround.

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Here's my thing - we thought Michael Thomas would be healthy in about a month, and then he ended up being injury riddled and 10% of his former self for the rest of his career. It's entirely possibly the reverse happens - Carr is all good in a month or so while we're all thinking it's a career-ender.