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Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury

I was trying to wait this thing out without turning to the dark side on Carr. But I'm over this MFer! I don't think any team would trade for him, so I say pay him his stupid money and make him ride the bench every game.

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Not sure of the source, but this may be CarrFax's pelvic Xray.

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If an NFL player's performance is deemed detrimental to the team, several cap ramifications can occur. Teams may be able to terminate the player's contract, either due to poor performance or "conduct detrimental to the team," potentially leading to a dead cap hit. The team may also face penalties if the player's contract is terminated for cause, as outlined in the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).
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Re: Carr May Require Off-Season Surgury

At this point Carr has done nothing that could be deemed as detrimental to the club. Veterans commonly do not show up for the earliest phases of OTA's. Especially if they are truly nursing an injury.

As for the "injury", I have heard "speculation" that it is likely the injury that he suffered in the 2023 season. Nothing new or out of the blue, if so. I believe, outside of the regular season, HIPAA rules apply and individual teams, nor the league itself, can share medical details without the consent of the player. However, as a contracted employee I also believe that the team must have access to that information, even though they are prohibited from sharing the same. I think there is little doubt the Saints front office know exactly where things lie.

As for Carr's off-season silence, nothing new there. Apparently he has always maintained a fairly low profile. I believe the podcast was more the pet project of his brother, David.

There has been nothing more than media speculation to date about Carr this off-season. There may or may not be truths to any or all of it. We'll find out sooner or later. It is the deadest period of the NFL year --- the period between combines and the rookie draft.

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I suspect there is some ego problem with him having a new boss who used to compete against him on the field in college.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008936)

AFAIK conduct detrimental to the team is completely at the Saints discretion. Rizzi could have been disciplined or released for conduct detrimental to the team after clogging a toilet.

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I believe Mickey Loomis has committed conduct detrimental to the team and his contract including all guarantees should be cancelled immediately. He has made grossly negligent financial transactions without conducting due diligence and has conducted himself in an extremely unprofessional manner including conducting press conferences while clearly intoxicated.

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Time will tell but IMO you're dead wrong.

This reeks of petulance.

Derek Carr is done in New Orleans and I hope we trade him for a 7th round pick to the Niners.

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1008950)

Time will tell but IMO you're dead wrong.

This reeks of petulance.

Derek Carr is done in New Orleans and I hope we trade him for a 7th round pick to the Niners.

I'd rather see them put him on IR immediately. Force him to miss all off-season work and the season. Then wait until after June 1st next year to cut him. By then he'll be a 35/36 year old QB who hasn't played in nearly 2 years and will have missed a significant portion of the off-season, making it even more difficult for him to latch on somewhere else. This is what Derek Carr deserves. And I say that as someone who believed in him when he was signed, and who still believed he could be a good QB at the beginning of last year. He has shown me who he is now, and I hope he never plays another down for anyone. F**k Derek Carr.